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07-08-2020, 12:40 PM
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"with all the blame and fictional solutions.. I should say no solutions
Fictional solutions. Yet the social science is clear, that the best defense against poverty by far, is a strong family unit with two parents. That's fictional? That's what you're saying?
As to your other statistics, you are proving my point. Blacks are not thriving like other ethnicities. But the data again is clear. Regardless of race, when their are two committed parents who are married and don't have kids until they are older than 20, very few people live in poverty.
https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/t...-middle-class/
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Black Population in US: 47.8 million, 14.6% of USA. Think about what I posted 14.6 percent... yet 38% of the prison system..
jim I wish it was as easy as having a homogeneous family... but blacks were in a no better place when blacks had homogeneous family structure ?
And your school choice argument is a red herring argument.... it's about money not choice or willingness to help blacks
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07-08-2020, 01:13 PM
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Black Population in US: 47.8 million, 14.6% of USA. Think about what I posted 14.6 percent... yet 38% of the prison system..
jim I wish it was as easy as having a homogeneous family... but blacks were in a no better place when blacks had homogeneous family structure ?
And your school choice argument is a red herring argument.... it's about money not choice or willingness to help blacks
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If that's because blacks commit a disproportionate share of violent crime, then they should make up a disproportionate share of prisons. Shouldn't they?
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07-08-2020, 06:19 PM
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If that's because blacks commit a disproportionate share of violent crime, then they should make up a disproportionate share of prisons. Shouldn't they?
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Jim you complaining about black communities and its liberals fault
Than you go back to they committed more crimes what do I expect ..
Why wouldn't they ? Even you paint a Dyer portrayal of their conditions
Cause and effect
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07-08-2020, 07:12 PM
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Jim you complaining about black communities and its liberals fault
Than you go back to they committed more crimes what do I expect ..
Why wouldn't they ? Even you paint a Dyer portrayal of their conditions
Cause and effect
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so you deny that blacks disproportionately commit violent crime? let’s clarify that point.
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07-08-2020, 07:36 PM
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Jim you complaining about black communities and its liberals fault
Than you go back to they committed more crimes what do I expect ..
Why wouldn't they ? Even you paint a Dyer portrayal of their conditions
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Liberals run the overwhelming majority of black communities. Whose fault is it, if not the people who run those places?
Liberalism encourages fatherlessness. Liberalism suggests that sex is casual, that the traditional family is an anachronism, that real women can do it all without a man, that divorce is no big deal, that masculinity is toxic, and liberalism also pays teenage girls to have babies, and pays them more if there is no dad around, which to the surprise of no sane person, creates more fatherlessness.
Fatherlessness leads to poverty, which leads to hopelessness, and especially to young boys acting out violently. Which means more arrests.
You go ahead and tell me what I said, which you think is incorrect.
Liberals want their inner city blacks right where they are on the economic ladder. That why every democrat in congress was miserable when Trump announced at the SOTU that black unemployment was at its lowest ever. WHy do you suppose that democrats were so miserable about that fact?
It's also why they oppose school choice. Got to keep them on the plantations that are our modern day cities. Give them just enough to stay alive and vote democrat, never ever give them the tools to get ahead.
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07-08-2020, 08:43 PM
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Liberals run the overwhelming majority of black communities. Whose fault is it, if not the people who run those places?
Liberalism encourages fatherlessness. Liberalism suggests that sex is casual, that the traditional family is an anachronism, that real women can do it all without a man, that divorce is no big deal, that masculinity is toxic, and liberalism also pays teenage girls to have babies, and pays them more if there is no dad around, which to the surprise of no sane person, creates more fatherlessness.
Fatherlessness leads to poverty, which leads to hopelessness, and especially to young boys acting out violently. Which means more arrests.
You go ahead and tell me what I said, which you think is incorrect.
Liberals want their inner city blacks right where they are on the economic ladder. That why every democrat in congress was miserable when Trump announced at the SOTU that black unemployment was at its lowest ever. WHy do you suppose that democrats were so miserable about that fact?
It's also why they oppose school choice. Got to keep them on the plantations that are our modern day cities. Give them just enough to stay alive and vote democrat, never ever give them the tools to get ahead.
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Your a broken record saying the same thing 10 different ways expecting a different response. While still not providing a solution..
Ps blacks live in Republican run cities and their situations are no better ..
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07-09-2020, 11:19 AM
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Your a broken record saying the same thing 10 different ways expecting a different response. While still not providing a solution..
Ps blacks live in Republican run cities and their situations are no better ..
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i never said that if a failing city elects a republican mayor, that the city will thrive. what i said, is that liberalism makes it worse.
we have spent trillions and trillions in the war on poverty. it’s nit about money. lack of money isn’t the cause of poverty, it’s a symptom.
the cause is usually making bad decisions. liberalism encourages the exact decisions that guarantee poverty.
you can tell me i’m a broken record. that doesn’t mean i’m wrong.
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07-09-2020, 03:09 PM
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i never said that if a failing city elects a republican mayor, that the city will thrive. what i said, is that liberalism makes it worse
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Now its liberalism makes things worse..
You really need to decide what your implying .. your tight rope act is failing
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07-08-2020, 01:13 PM
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Black Population in US: 47.8 million, 14.6% of USA. Think about what I posted 14.6 percent... yet 38% of the prison system..
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But yet blacks commit 53% of the murders and 54% of the robberies. That's why they are incarcerated at such a high rate.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ables/table-43
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07-08-2020, 01:20 PM
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But that's because cops look the other way when whites commit murder.
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07-08-2020, 01:24 PM
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But that's because cops look the other way when whites commit murder.
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And if you scroll down that link to the 2nd chart and look at the break down for "Under 18" it jumps dramatically in the violent crime categories. That doesn't bode well for the future.
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07-08-2020, 01:54 PM
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And if you scroll down that link to the 2nd chart and look at the break down for "Under 18" it jumps dramatically in the violent crime categories. That doesn't bode well for the future.
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not much bodes well for the short-term future. Though when I see kids into scouting or martial arts, I have to say I like what I see. Other than that? I dunno...
Last edited by Jim in CT; 07-08-2020 at 02:02 PM..
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