But there's no income inequality

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Several things that made the middle class are different today.
People were trained and promoted from within.
Before we were married my wife rented an apartment in someone’s Vermont home that was the Head of one of the big brokerage houses on the NYSE
He started in the mailroom and worked his way up.
My father started in aerospace out of HS and worked his way up.
These guys knew what the people below them do and they were not just occupants of a cubicle.
Corporations acted as important members of communities and felt responsible to them and their employees and also their shareholders.
With the prevalence of the MBA
Shareholders have become #1 and employees and communities are just a somewhat necessary evil.
There were also strong unions that stood up for their members and increased wages and benefits which then raised opportunities across the board.
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Opportunity is still there. My friend is CEO of a fortune 100 company. His CFO is a man who came from India as child with $300 in his pocket. Smart guy,hard worker. Just another success story in the USA.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Opportunity is still there. My friend is CEO of a fortune 100 company. His CFO is a man who came from India as child with $300 in his pocket. Smart guy,hard worker. Just another success story in the USA.
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What’s your point
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

What’s your point
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He's showing the exception and selling it as the Rule its the conservative mantra everyone is one step from being a millionaire

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

He's showing the exception and selling it as the Rule

the exception, is the willingness to work for what you want. the general rule, is that we are limited by our abilities and our willingness to work. not by the system. sure, some people
do all the right things and have bad luck. that’s not the rule. take a stroll through the projects of hartford, you won’t see a lot of two parent households doing homework together. that breeds poverty. it’s mostly avoidable.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

He's showing the exception and selling it as the Rule its the conservative mantra everyone is one step from being a millionaire

I am not selling it as the rule and I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. Hit the books,live within your means and anything is possible. That’s what I am selling but you can keep looking for pity and your piece of the pie.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I am not selling it as the rule and I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. Hit the books,live within your means and anything is possible. That’s what I am selling but you can keep looking for pity and your piece of the pie.
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"I am not selling it as the rule "

Of course not.

"and I have no idea how you came to that conclusion."

Because it's the only way he can make you wrong, if you said something as stupid as "this will always work". When you say that hard work usually pays off, and that making stupid decisions rarely pays off, he cannot respond to that. So in true liberal fashion, he ignores what you actually said, and responds to something that no one has ever said.

You can't talk to people who do this, it's not possible.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

What’s your point
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My point is opportunity is there for those willing to give it a go.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Opportunity is still there. My friend is CEO of a fortune 100 company. His CFO is a man who came from India as child with $300 in his pocket. Smart guy,hard worker. Just another success story in the USA.
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my favorite story...the convenience store near my house is owned by a family from Liberia. mom, dad, two kids. i’d go in on sundays to fill
my tank
and get the sunday paper. the whole family was always in there, kids either working or studying. both kids got free rides to college. they came here with nothing, and their daughter is a doctor. they worked like dogs, and saw education as a gift from
god. he used to tell me, he couldn’t understand why liberals talk about what a crappy racist country this is. every town in the country has a family like that. i think he still works 6 days a week.
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