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Old 03-17-2008, 01:06 PM   #1
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important 1995-2000 toyota tacoma owners

from toyotas website:

March 07, 2008

Living Up to Our Commitment

Rust, as they say, never sleeps. It certainly never sleeps in the states where road salt is in heavy use, and we’ve recently become aware of additional evidence of that fact.
We’ve received reports that on a small number of model-year 1995 to 2000 Tacomas, excessive corrosion of the frame has caused perforation of the metal. The reason for this, it appears, is that the frames of some of the 813,000 vehicles built during this time-frame may not have adequate corrosion protection.
As a result, when they’re exposed to severe environmental conditions, especially in states where salt is used for the de-icing of roads, these frames may develop corrosion that goes beyond the normal surface rust that’s commonly found on metal after years of exposure – and in this case, these trucks are from eight to 13 years old.
Because of our oft-stated commitment to standing behind our products, we’re extending the rust-perforation warranty covering these trucks for a period of 15 years from each vehicle’s original date of purchase, with no mileage limitation, for corrosion damage that results in perforation of the vehicle’s frame material. Owners of these Tacomas need not be the original owners. Even if you bought your Tacoma second- or third-hand, it’s covered by this extended warranty.
Here’s how this will work: Starting in the middle of March and continuing over a period of time, owners of 1995-2000 Tacomas will be sent letters informing them about this issue. If you find rust perforation on your vehicle's frame, have your truck inspected by a Toyota dealer.
If frame corrosion damage is confirmed by an inspection at a Toyota dealership, at Toyota's option, we will either repair the vehicle or repurchase it. No matter the vehicle’s actual condition, it will be valued as a vehicle in excellent condition. If the inspection reveals no rust perforation, the 15-year warranty will remain in force.
This is worth underscoring: This is not a recall. Rather, it’s an example of our commitment to the durability of our products and to our owners. These are older trucks and rust is a fact of life, especially where road salt is used, but that’s not what’s important. What’s important is that we take care of our owners. We just thought you should know that.
- Mike Michels, Corporate Communications

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Old 03-17-2008, 01:08 PM   #2
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from a toyota blog, not the corp. just enthusiasts:

If your in the New England area CONTACT this guy! It sounds like a great time to get a New Tundra.

you may be the owner of a 1995 through 2000 model year Toyota Tacoma that may be eligible for a unique buy-back program fromToyota due to corrosion perforation of the frame in some vehicles. Acton Toyota has established a TOLL-FREE 800 number and a Customer Relations
Specialist to assist Tacoma owners affected by this customer support program. In the event that your vehicle is affected, you may be eligible to
receive the following benefits from Toyota Motor Sales in the event of repurchase

*Toyota will repurchase your Tacoma at 1.5 times the Kelley Blue Book
Suggested Retail Value (excellent condition)
* Toyota is offering each customer a complimentary loaner vehicle
while you are considering alternative transportation options
* Toyota is offering a $1,000 owner loyalty rebate for customers who
purchase a replacement Tacoma or Tundra
* Toyota is offering a $500 owner loyalty rebate for customers who
purchase a replacement of any other new Toyota (Scion excluded) or Toyota Certified Used Vehicle
* Any applicable rebates, purchase incentives, and special financing
offers in effect would be in addition to the special offers listed above


Tacoma owners should call our TOLL-FREE number, 800-229-6023, and speakwith Mark Bentley to schedule an inspection of their 1995 - 2000 MY Tacoma to determine if it qualifies for repurchase under this program. In the event that your vehicle has perforation of the frame due to rust corrosion, we will assist you with a Toyota repurchase. Under the terms of this customer support program, Toyota will also be offering a warranty extension for a period of 15 years with no mileage limitation from the vehicle's in-service date for this specific condition.





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That stuff above should be helpful if youve got that truck and are looking at something new or even if you have the truck and intend to keep it, they're basically going to repair the frame and extend the frame warranty 15yrs from the date they run the repairs

SCORE! I called the place I got my taco at and they wanted me to come right in to inspect the frame

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Old 03-17-2008, 01:30 PM   #3
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Great!

My rear bumper essentailly rotted off and was hanging buy the license plate wire. I welded a couple of plates on to what was left of the frame just to put the bumper back on. Looking closer at the frame it's pretty much swiss cheese and borderline unsafe to drive.

Looks like its time for a new 'Yota.
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Old 03-17-2008, 02:32 PM   #4
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I have a 2000 Tacoma, where on the frame is it prone to rot?
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Old 03-17-2008, 03:02 PM   #5
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basically anything that perforates the frame is what they are addressing.

I have an appt. tonight with toyota of attleboro, we'll see how I make out if anything they'll redo the frame if its real bad, I may have to pick up a new taco But they cover a decent portion I guess. I gotta stop at home and scrape off the beach sticker

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Yeah,and maybe vacuum out the sand.
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Old 03-17-2008, 03:35 PM   #7
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I may have to pick up a new taco .....

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I'd need a limp wrist to drive that zac

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Old 03-17-2008, 03:41 PM   #9
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what mileage does the FJ get? my guess is 18 tops.
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I'd need a limp wrist to drive that zac

no way.... those things are sick....









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Old 03-17-2008, 06:30 PM   #11
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holy poop!!! guess I better look into this!

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Old 03-17-2008, 07:16 PM   #12
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I have an appt. tonight with toyota of attleboro, we'll see how I make out if anything they'll redo the frame if its real bad,
How did it go?
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:09 PM   #13
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Service manager is giving me a call with the outcome/figures in the morning.

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Old 03-18-2008, 07:04 AM   #14
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toyota has such a demand for pre owned toacos that they are beggig for used cars. I get asked all the time if I will sell mine. there is 5 times the demand for a used taco over a new one so this is toyota's attemp at getting a flood of preowned tacomas to sell and at the same time an opertunity to sell their glut of new tacomas..
If your frame is not rusted, you can bet they will still want to take your tacoma off your hands and then offer you a deal on a new one, however, if your frame is totally rusted out then this is a great opertunity.
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Old 03-18-2008, 07:17 AM   #15
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Service manager is giving me a call with the outcome/figures in the morning.
Thanks TT... I may take mine in.. for sure. Maybe time to get 4x4... but I'm wicked cheap.
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Sounds good but Nebe is on the ball. In the sales think tank they came up with this scenario. If you can get as much out of them as to fixing frame and not buying new you`ll be ahead of their game.

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Thanks TT... I may take mine in.. for sure. Maybe time to get 4x4... but I'm wicked cheap.
I think there may be a sailboat joke in here somewhere............

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Sounds good but Nebe is on the ball. In the sales think tank they came up with this scenario. If you can get as much out of them as to fixing frame and not buying new you`ll be ahead of their game.
dont listen to Nebe.. he is a crack pot.
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nope totally makes sense eben. no way im dropping 20-34k into a new truck. 1.5 x's kbb or not. a tune up set of wheels and Im good to go for a few more miles. 250k-300k block will make it no problem.

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Sounds good but Nebe is on the ball. In the sales think tank they came up with this scenario. If you can get as much out of them as to fixing frame and not buying new you`ll be ahead of their game.
theyre not going to repair anything, but if your engine and frame are toast. Nows the time

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Old 03-18-2008, 04:47 PM   #21
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What other product would be backed up like this? Van Staal? This is unbelievable service. Detroit-take notice, this is why you're in the crapper. I do a lot of Toyota dealership work, I think that Toyota might be the best deal out there.

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Timber - What did the dealer say about your 'Yota?

Bringing mine in today and already know that the frame is rotted to hell. Just trying to prepare for the 45 minute sales pitch.

Although I do need a new truck, it's a pain in the arse having to go switch vehicles with the wife when I have to pick up the kids.
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150% of NADA retail is so good for a return, if your even considering selling yours for new this has to be considered a great opportunity. I'm taking mine in to see if I can cash in on this deal.
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This sounds andreads like a sales ploy.

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Old 03-19-2008, 11:06 AM   #25
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150% of NADA retail is so good for a return, if your even considering selling yours for new this has to be considered a great opportunity. I'm taking mine in to see if I can cash in on this deal.
150% of NADA or (KBB) Retail is actually far better than 150% of the book dealers use for appraising a car: Galves . (IF they are giving you a set number for your vehicle that you can apply towards the negotiated price of a new vehicle. If it is against list then they are not doing you many favors). It is possible that the numbers you would see would be close to or even over twice the wholesale "Actual Cash Value" you would receive on a trade in. So if you are thinking about it, this could be a good time. If you wait to long and all the sudden there is a glut of frame repaired older Tacomas out there that KBB value that they base those numbers on will in fact fall and your 1.5 multiplier would be based on a smaller number - thus less overall savings...

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Timber - What did the dealer say about your 'Yota?

Bringing mine in today and already know that the frame is rotted to hell. Just trying to prepare for the 45 minute sales pitch.

Although I do need a new truck, it's a pain in the arse having to go switch vehicles with the wife when I have to pick up the kids.

they test your frame (hammer)

Take the info etc. I let them know I prefer the repair option, I dont want to jump into a new 20-30 truck hell nah! My taco is 4cyl I can take that thing to 250k no problem.

Service manager called yesterday and offered me 1.5 x's kbb value at excellent condition for the truck if I wanted to sell it to them + 1k if I buy a another taco or tundra. I let them know I was more interested in the repair option. They've offered me a temp. vehicle while everything is sorted out. Service guy said if theres anything wrong with the vehicle they dont want me driving around in it, I'm calling them after work tonight.

I'm stressing to them I want the repairs made etc. The company handling this for toyota is named isg, Once they contact me I guess I'll get the info on the repair option. And how that will go. they arent being pushy/ sales at all I told them I wanted the repair option and we're going down that road. They did mention that if I wanted to jump into a new/used truck they'd be VERY happy to help me out

so far 1.5x's kbb +1k and any other current offers or incentives for a new/used taco or tundra

or

Getting the repairs done for the bubble.

I'm shooting for the bubble.


Once I hear the repair options etc.. I'll see which is more practical. If going with something new/used I'd want to even swap as much as possible. I want to keep my truck and have it repaired, but at the same time if i can swap into something used with less mileage at an even or as close to even as possible swap and its a bigger truck I may go with that. A friends a service manager at a dif. yota shop going to make a call and see what hes got on his lot just in case

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I hear you on not wanting a car payment. I've got zero bills besides a mortgage and would like to keep it that way, unfortunatly with two kids, the current 'Yota is useless if I have to do anything with them.

I've checked some Toyota dealer sites and BOCH has by far the best prices on used rides. If I end up with a 2006 - 2007 4x4 Access Cab for $15 K or so, with the buy back I'd be happy.

I bought the current 'Yota for $10K 9 years ago and it's still going strong ( rotting to hell ) so I really can't complain. I got my money's worth.
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Dude at work has a 2k yota, theyre giving him like 14-15k for. thats a '08 taco a half price

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I show up at 3:55pm for a 4:00pm appt.

Drive the truck in and they have no idea why I am there. I called yesterday to have my frame checked. Check for what? For rust. Oh OK. Technician walks over and looks, Yeah it's rusted. OK, we will have to have corporate come down and take a look at it. Why? Because thats what we have to do. Well what happens now? Corporate has to come down and look at it. Look at what the rust? Yes. Well when do they "come down" Oh, once a month. OK when are they coming. We don't know.

Now I'm getting aggrivated. Look, I called you guys yesterday to make an appt. and to talk to someone about this. I called so I wouldnt have to come here and the come back again like a ping pong ball and waste my time. We dont want to waste your time either, thats why your here.

I got in the truck and drove away. Don't have anything done at the Toyota dealer on Aquidneck Island. MORONS!
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