Keep getting booted?? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

macojoe · 03-02-2005, 06:23 PM

I have a almost 4 year old Dell 4400, 1.6, P 4, 512 DDR Ram, 160 gig hard drive, Windows XP Home.

I have Comcast BroadBand

I keep losing the internet connection and the only way to get it back is to reboot?

I have NetGear 10/100 card and a Belkin Router, with 4 computers hooked up.

I have changed the wire from the computer to the router.

I have changed which plug I use in the router.

I have reloaded Windows Explorer 6

I have replaced the 10/100 card with a brand new one
of the same.

And I still keep getting booted from the net?? It is at all random times, 1 time today, 5 times yesterday, and then nothing for a day??

This has been going on for a month now??

My computer is the only one that gets booted!! No one else has this problem with theres??

Anyone have any Ideas

BigBo · 03-02-2005, 08:48 PM

Dump IE and try Mozilla (Firefox or Netscape) see if you have better results.

macojoe · 03-02-2005, 11:02 PM

Well thats don't work! My AMI & Yahoo Messenger go down when it happens also. so its more then that.

Its 3 try's for a quarter !!

rivsie11 · 03-02-2005, 11:20 PM

Did you load any new software lately and what are your firewall and other protection settings at? Is there an automatic sign off setting you are missing?

macojoe · 03-03-2005, 08:52 AM

The only new stuff I did to the computer is install a new CDRW/DVD player and Nero.

But this started about a month after that??

As for Firewall I use Microsloth XP firewall and it is on??

Automatic sign off?? I have never seen one nor have I ever used one?? What would be somthing that would have one??

Thanks!!

ThrowingTimber · 03-03-2005, 10:29 AM

Make sure you dont have any nasties in that box. scan the chit outta it

macojoe · 03-03-2005, 04:35 PM

OK I have removed all cookies, temp files, did adaware, and Microsloth spy ware, and updated Norton and did a full scan and it says I am clean.

I also have found out that when I get booted, I am still connected?? But AIM, Yahoo Messanger, and my Browser goes Down??
And I have to reboot to get anything to work??

I know this from going to start, settings, network connection, and double clicking. And it says connected and a clock is going.

leptar · 03-04-2005, 04:02 AM

macojoe, try a different port on your router....

you might also want to consider blowing away your TCP/IP settings and reinstalling them... this is only an option if you have the original setup disk....

It sounds to me that you might have a hidden TTL/MTU setting(s) that might be over riding causing your machine to dump it's ip.... I'm totally brain dead with this IT stuff ATM.... but this is a simple fix... usually happens from time to time... most companies secretly adjust your Network settings so you can't notice when they are sending info back and forth...like auto updates...

Just review your network settings and make sure that they are all the same well except for the ip...

actually.. i just re-read your last post..
make sure your router is set to DNS and that each machine is set to automaticatly obtain..... if one machine is set to say 192.168.1.100 and it's down and you have another machine set to auto it's ip might be just that....

ack i just re-read what i've posted... if you can understand what i've said then... if not just ignore it... i'll post something easier to understand when i get home from work...

bassmaster · 03-04-2005, 10:48 AM

go to run
type cmd
type ip config
release it and cpa i forgot the command
any way it will gather your ip and reconnect you.

macojoe · 03-04-2005, 11:25 AM

well whats the comand?? Thats like giving me a $1,000 check and then have it bounce!! what good is it?

Hey I wish I had my camera yesterday!! There was a dump duck just sitting ptetty on the roof of your truck! it would have been a funny pic

bassmaster · 03-04-2005, 12:13 PM

its on the top of my head and i cant think of it now thats stupid.
when i get home i will tell you, i can also come over. its a long ride so i want gas money

macojoe · 03-04-2005, 01:21 PM

Ok I will give you .02 worth!! and you will be able to drive home with whats left over!

If you see the truck stop anytime!!

bassmaster · 03-04-2005, 05:07 PM

start
run
type cmd
/ipconfig /release
/ipconfig/renew

macojoe · 03-04-2005, 05:41 PM

thanks!! I did it, now I will have to wait to see if I get kicked again??

bassmaster · 03-04-2005, 08:19 PM

when You did that did you see what the ip address was??
just wondering if it was not the one you have now, ifit was differnt then that might have been ya problem.

macojoe · 03-04-2005, 10:50 PM

I did no you were supose to no??

But I have not been booted since?? But sometimes I am good for 1 or 2 days?? we shall see?

I will let you know!! Thanks!!

bassmaster · 03-05-2005, 09:40 AM

i built a pc outof parts. im going to oc it it tillit blows up

Raven · 03-06-2005, 07:47 AM

stays on the net ....then that sounds like a router issue...
and that the range of ip adddress's changes so that your
PC is out of that range..... either that or its a browser setting ...time to live thang.... you could switch to trillian
to still use the aim client indirectly.... as a test...

or run something like shoutcast 24/7 with sound off to

never be idle... interesting though ....i always love a mystery

macojoe · 03-06-2005, 04:07 PM

Ok I think I am getting closer to the problem??? Not that I no how to fix it

Here is what I got from the adminster tools event thing a majig

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Ok just got booted again, and found something else,

Your computer was not able to renew its addres from the network (from the DHCP Server) for the Network Card with network address 000000000CA8 (Ichanged the IP adress for this posting). The following error occured:
The semaphore timeout period has expired. Your compute will continue to try and obtain an address on its own from the network address (DHCP) server.

Are we getting closer??

Raven · 03-07-2005, 06:14 AM

first of all....realize that computers lie like hell and will often generate a computer message when something fails ...meaning that the message isnt necesarily accurate...

just that its encountered a problem and it auto generated a message as a response mechanism....ok... as it doesnt possess -> artificial intelligence....

but its entirely possible, that its also correct....

open your browser and type in the address window

192.168.1.1 ..........hit enter ...... and that should

get you into your router configuration screen... if prompted for a password just enter administrator
with no password....

once in ......... increase the range of IP addresses

from say 10 to 150 so that your pc always is
included.... within that group.... just a guess mind you

macojoe · 03-07-2005, 11:14 AM

Ok I reset the router today, we will see if this helps??

Raven I was not sure were to increase that number?? It had something called a pool?? and it had 2 in one and 40 in the other at the end of the IP address.
Is that what you were talking about?? If it still screws up I will try it.

Thanks

Raven · 03-07-2005, 11:30 AM

the point is...that if the pool isnt big enough ....see...
your ip addy ,,,, jumps outside of it.... so by expanding the size(range) of the pool ....your addy isn't squeezed out any more.

so depending on what your P'Cs ip address is and how close it is to the begining 2 or the 40 end.... may be the solution... better that your 20 and or in the middle.

Raven · 03-07-2005, 11:41 AM

router companies have help lines and are good about tech support for "their" products.... so find the pamphlet that came with your router and look for the tech support number.

an explanantion to them might further pin point your settings error.... if it (the problem)continues to occur that is....

lurch · 03-11-2005, 03:46 AM

Have you tried to use the PC without the router? Most of the router ports have auto config enabled and when they get out of sync you lose connection. Try to hardcode the port speed and duplex mode on your PC and router. Most routers are set for autonegotiate and by default XP is as well so nail those suckers up and the problem will go away

Most routers cannot get out of autonegotiate mode but if you nail up the PC side the router SHOULD auto negotiate to the speed you set on your pc. If the router cannot the link will not come up but I am guessing that the negotiation problem is the issue...

Remember work in layers...physical, datalink, network....

macojoe · 03-11-2005, 08:57 AM

Thanks All!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But I have tryed everything and still nothng?? Got rid of the router and all!!!

All except for one thing that is....... My friend who just got a computer for the frist time says did you try restoreing to a earlier time??

So I went as far back as it would let me Feb 4th and I have not been booted since??

Its always the simple things!!

Again thanks all!!

Surfcastinglife · 03-18-2005, 09:52 AM

well if that solved ur problem then it was probably something that slipped into ur comp, or something u changed in the settings

macojoe · 03-18-2005, 11:08 AM

It fixed it for a week and then it started again?? But it doesn't do it as much? When i get some time I guess i will have to reinstall the OP system

Newboater · 04-05-2005, 08:10 AM

If you got a new 10/100 or some other internal Cable card, did you call your IP Provider and give them the MAC address so they could program that in ?

Especially if yours is the primary machine providing internet.

Sarge

lurch · 04-05-2005, 12:49 PM

Also nail up the interface to 10mbs and a duplex mode of half and see if it is an autonegotiation problem. Auto neg is bad stuff for networking equipment.

bassmaster · 04-05-2005, 04:38 PM

this guy had the most frigged up mach i ever seen

He had 2 partitions 1 was 12 gig and the other was 120 or sumtin like that.
with sys files all over the place
had to format drive c and then I spent all day loading and updating his pc to sp2 wich i like alot and works great when You do a fresh install and then load ya programs.
did 35 updates, loaded his norton, configed his sys. set his virtual mem to 2 gigs. (more than enuff and defrag wont take hours, Ya shoulda seen His it was like a rainbow, never seen nuttin like it. this bum is nuts
defragged to keep all his files tight.
set his home page up and no friggen partitions.
the pc smokes now. untill he friggs it up again.

can I go now