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06-20-2018, 01:10 PM
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I didn't read the article but it is my understanding that children were not separated from the their parents like they are now. I read a 8 month child has been separated. I think it is an embarassment and shows no morals in using babies as pawns. Cory Lewendowski's attitude is indicative of the type of people in this admin.
That said, I don't disagree w/what Sessions said about amnesty a week or so ago in that it wasn't intented for spousal abuse for example. Unfortunately, with this admin. I think there is a racial element to this as well as many of their policies.
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06-20-2018, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
I didn't read the article but it is my understanding that children were not separated from the their parents like they are now. I read a 8 month child has been separated. I think it is an embarassment and shows no morals in using babies as pawns. Cory Lewendowski's attitude is indicative of the type of people in this admin.
That said, I don't disagree w/what Sessions said about amnesty a week or so ago in that it wasn't intented for spousal abuse for example. Unfortunately, with this admin. I think there is a racial element to this as well as many of their policies.
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"I didn't read the article but it is my understanding that children were not separated from the their parents like they are now. "
The article says that in 2013, 72,000 illegals who were already here, were separated from their kids, and deported. That's from The Huffington Post, so it's fair to assume it wasn't a hit piece on Obama. Maybe that's not exactly the same as separating kids who arrive with their parents at the border, but in both cases, kids and parents were forcibly separated.
"with this admin. I think there is a racial element to this as well as many of their policies"
Not sure about that.
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06-20-2018, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
but in both cases, kids and parents were forcibly separated.
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That's not what your article says.
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06-20-2018, 03:23 PM
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I know - where was the coordinated outrage mob in 2013, 2014?
(BTW - I am against separating the families as I am against illegal immigration - fix immigration laws, enforce those laws, and allow more through the front door LEGALLY).
This outrage mob is the same coordinated bullet-point-knee-jerk-talking-points reaction that was the post Parkland Anti-NRA coordinated bullet-point-knee-jerk-talking-points. I wonder what August's coordinated bullet-point-knee-jerk-talking-point will be??
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06-20-2018, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
This outrage mob is the same coordinated bullet-point-knee-jerk-talking-points reaction that was the post Parkland Anti-NRA coordinated bullet-point-knee-jerk-talking-points. I wonder what August's coordinated bullet-point-knee-jerk-talking-point will be??
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Yea, the Pope, Laura Bush, the entire United Methodist clergy...that mob?
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06-20-2018, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Yea, the Pope, Laura Bush, the entire United Methodist clergy...that mob?
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No the outrage mob - but come to think of it - I don't recall them screaming when Obama era rules were doing it - not like today.
I cracked up (well would have if the topic was less horrible) watching NBC playing the religious card today.
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06-20-2018, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
No the outrage mob - but come to think of it - I don't recall them screaming when Obama era rules were doing it - not like today.
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Because it wasn’t like today. Under Obama the policy wasn’t perfect but they were prioritizing deportations not weaponzing children.
Last edited by spence; 06-20-2018 at 06:34 PM..
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06-20-2018, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
That's not what your article says.
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“Children born in the U.S. are given automatic citizenship, regardless of their parents’ immigration status, and a 2013 report by Human Impact Partners estimated that 4.5 million U.S. citizen children have at least one parent who is undocumented. When a parent is deported, their U.S.-born children sometimes leave with them. But some stay in the U.S. with another parent or family member. Some children end up in U.S. foster care.”
This......and the title of the article
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06-20-2018, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
“Children born in the U.S. are given automatic citizenship, regardless of their parents’ immigration status, and a 2013 report by Human Impact Partners estimated that 4.5 million U.S. citizen children have at least one parent who is undocumented. When a parent is deported, their U.S.-born children sometimes leave with them. But some stay in the U.S. with another parent or family member. Some children end up in U.S. foster care.”
This......and the title of the article
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So what you’re saying is the kids aren’t forceable separated and the parents are given a choice? They would have time to try and place kids with family? It also notes the US Gov would help with paperwork if the parent wanted to take the child with them.
Big, huge difference.
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