Immigration hysteria

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Originally Posted by JohnR

This outrage mob is the same coordinated bullet-point-knee-jerk-talking-points reaction that was the post Parkland Anti-NRA coordinated bullet-point-knee-jerk-talking-points. I wonder what August's coordinated bullet-point-knee-jerk-talking-point will be??

Yea, the Pope, Laura Bush, the entire United Methodist clergy...that mob?

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

Yea, the Pope, Laura Bush, the entire United Methodist clergy...that mob?

No the outrage mob - but come to think of it - I don't recall them screaming when Obama era rules were doing it - not like today.

I cracked up (well would have if the topic was less horrible) watching NBC playing the religious card today.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

No the outrage mob - but come to think of it - I don't recall them screaming when Obama era rules were doing it - not like today.

Because it wasn’t like today. Under Obama the policy wasn’t perfect but they were prioritizing deportations not weaponzing children.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Because it wasn’t like today. Under Obama the policy wasn’t perfect but they were prioritizing deportations not weaponzing children.

The article I posted ( if you read it), says that in 2013 alone, if the 70,000 parents separated from their kids, more than 10,000 had not been accused of any crimes.

So how were they “prioritized” before being separated from their children? You are pathetically, desperately, trying to differentiate between the two.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The article I posted ( if you read it), says that in 2013 alone, if the 70,000 parents separated from their kids, more than 10,000 had not been accused of any crimes.

So how were they “prioritized” before being separated from their children? You are pathetically, desperately, trying to differentiate between the two.
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"Crimes" Jim. Being in the country illegally isn't a crime. There were other criteria being used to prioritize deportations as your article describes.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

"Crimes" Jim. Being in the country illegally isn't a crime. There were other criteria being used to prioritize deportations as your article describes.

One. Last. Time.

The Huff Post article said that at least 10,000 people were deported, and separated from their children, for no reason other than being here illegally. The article says they "may have fit other criteria". That's good enough for you, to separate 10,000 kids from their families?

Here is my question - why is that OK, but not what Trump is currently doing? If Trump said the adults "may fit other arrest criteria", you expect us to believe that would satisfy you?

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

One. Last. Time.

The Huff Post article said that at least 10,000 people were deported, and separated from their children, for no reason other than being here illegally.

Here is my question - why is that OK, but not what Trump is currently doing?

They weren't forcibly separated from their children. Policy was to give the parents the option to take their kids or place them with family. Families at the border were charged with civil violations and sent back. It wasn't perfect but it was at least somewhat humane.

Trump is now treating all adults as criminals, forcibly removing babies and kids on the spot and shipping them to detention centers and banning media and politicians to even see what's going on with the children.

Even worse they're doing it for political reasons.

Even worse even worse the Administration lied about the protocol for the last two weeks before finally flipping and caving to pressure.

Situations are quite different Jim, that's why there's condemnation from both sides. We need bi-partisan immigration reform but you're not going to see it under Trump. It would undermine his Presidency.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

One. Last. Time.

The Huff Post article said that at least 10,000 people were deported, and separated from their children, for no reason other than being here illegally. The article says they "may have fit other criteria". That's good enough for you, to separate 10,000 kids from their families?

Here is my question - why is that OK, but not what Trump is currently doing? If Trump said the adults "may fit other arrest criteria", you expect us to believe that would satisfy you?

One used the children as pawns admittedly for political reasons, claimed they had no choice, that others were making them do it and then said: Oh we can save the children with an executive order, look what I did, hooray for me.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

"Crimes" Jim. Being in the country illegally isn't a crime. There were other criteria being used to prioritize deportations as your article describes.

Oh FFS, the fact they are here illegally makes it a crime. That's literally what the word Illegal refers to

il·le·gal
i(l)ˈlēɡəl/Submit
adjective
1.
contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.
"illegal drugs"
synonyms: unlawful, illicit, illegitimate, criminal, felonious;

[scottw]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Oh FFS, the fact they are here illegally makes it a crime. That's literally what the word Illegal refers to

il·le·gal
i(l)ˈlēɡəl/Submit
adjective
1.
contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.
"illegal drugs"
synonyms: unlawful, illicit, illegitimate, criminal, felonious;

they refuse to recognize the difference anymore...

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Oh FFS, the fact they are here illegally makes it a crime. That's literally what the word Illegal refers to

il·le·gal
i(l)ˈlēɡəl/Submit
adjective
1.
contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.
"illegal drugs"
synonyms: unlawful, illicit, illegitimate, criminal, felonious;

A civil violation is contrary to or forbidden by law. Makes it illegal doesn't make it crime. It's not a crime to be in the US as an undocumented immigrant.