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07-05-2016, 10:44 AM
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FBI drops the ball IMO
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/05/fbi-d...ns-emails.html
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07-05-2016, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
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How can you suggest charges when there isn't a case you can prosecute?
Most important is it looks like there was no evidence of mal intent or attempts to cover anything up. |
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07-05-2016, 10:50 AM
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inappropriate and negligent
if it were anyone else, they would be fired, fined and in jail
it's up to prosecutors now
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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07-05-2016, 10:57 AM
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it's up to prosecutors now
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Huh? Legally speaking this story is dead. |
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07-05-2016, 11:02 AM
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I listened to the press conference, I will post the transcript later and highlight key items. Had ANYONE else done that than the political uber elite they would have been prosecuted.
There will be significant protesting form the Intelligence Community.
The FBI has said either :
Nobody will be prosecuted for mishandling intelligence information if you say it was not intentional
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The rules still apply to the peasants.
Both have significant, negative impacts on information storage.
Any thoughts on a 3rd possibility - those of you with a Security clearance (that can comment?)
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07-05-2016, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
The FBI has said either :
Nobody will be prosecuted for mishandling intelligence information if you say it was not intentional
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The rules still apply to the peasants.
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So can you inform us of all the significant cases where "peasants" were prosecuted for unintentional mishandling of intelligence information? |
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07-05-2016, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
So can you inform us of all the significant cases where "peasants" were prosecuted for unintentional mishandling of intelligence information?
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Here ya go - I know you will find problems with it though
http://www.navytimes.com/story/milit...lker/30907091/ |
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07-05-2016, 07:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
So can you inform us of all the significant cases where "peasants" were prosecuted for unintentional mishandling of intelligence information?
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You don't need to show intent. She showed gross negligence.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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07-06-2016, 06:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
So can you inform us of all the significant cases where "peasants" were prosecuted for unintentional mishandling of intelligence information?
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Spence - believe me as I have worked in this field all my working life. I've known plenty of examples where a silly mistake with classified information even with no "intent" has resulted in loss of job, security clearance, and those involved can never pass a background check again for government work. My guess is someone in Hillary's state dept office will be the fall guy and lose their job to protect her. I mean how can a potential POTUS not pass a background check? |
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07-05-2016, 11:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Huh? Legally speaking this story is dead.
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Yep. It's worth noting that the FBI doesn't have a history of being overly political. I think it was worth doing the investigation, you have to investigate to determine whether or not any laws were broken. |
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07-05-2016, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Yep. It's worth noting that the FBI doesn't have a history of being overly political. I think it was worth doing the investigation, you have to investigate to determine whether or not any laws were broken.
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Laws were broken, they just apply to the little people. |
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07-05-2016, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Laws were broken, they just apply to the little people.
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I don't know NEARLY enough about the technical stuff to conclude, for myself, if laws were broken, of if she received preferential treatment. This FBI director is known as being a straight shooter (I think). I had long ago accurately concluded about the character of this woman and her husband, this does very little to move the needle either way for me.
The FBI did say she was extremely careless in her handling of sensitive material. Is that who we want as POTUS when, whether she will say it or not, the civilized world is at war with jihadists? In a fair world, having the FBI say that you can't be trusted to handle sensitive intelligence, should be more than enough to lead people to conclude that she isn't nearly up for the job. She doesn't have the brains, she doesn't have the character.
And the fact that the FBI would release this, right after her husband had a secret meeting with the AG, is mind-boggling. The optics could not be more sleazy.
She's a moron, and she's morally bankrupt. I knew that already, and if anything, the outcome of this scandal (the latest of many) cements that. |
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07-05-2016, 07:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Huh? Legally speaking this story is dead.
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Huh?
The FBI stated it was illegal but legally speaking the story is dead , HUH? |
The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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07-06-2016, 06:07 PM
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Not quite
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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