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Old 01-18-2022, 07:15 AM   #1
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yes liberals are being silent about their opinions as always. they aren’t constantly criticizing the unvaccinated, not a peep.
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..hardly ever hear from them...no virtue signaling whatsoever
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yes liberals are being silent about their opinions as always. they aren’t constantly criticizing the unvaccinated, not a peep.
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By the way, vaccination is not a "deeply personal decision." It is a routine public health requirement in a civilized society.
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Old 01-18-2022, 10:27 AM   #3
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By the way, vaccination is not a "deeply personal decision." It is a routine public health requirement in a civilized society.
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pete, i agree with you on vaccines, it’s an issue that the gop looks horrible on.
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By the way, vaccination is not a "deeply personal decision." It is a routine public health requirement in a civilized society.
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What do you mean by "requirement."
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What do you mean by "requirement."
Want to go to school, military service, lots of jobs
Of course you could be a plumber without a hepatitis vaccine
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The Silent, Vaccinated, Impatient Majority Is sick of Covid
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Ivermectin: Arkansas inmates sue over Covid treatment with horse dewormer

But conservatives compare vaccine mandates to the holocaust

This is look like a better comparison
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Ivermectin: Arkansas inmates sue over Covid treatment with horse dewormer

But conservatives compare vaccine mandates to the holocaust

This is look like a better comparison
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You aren’t aware of the human uses of Ivermectin?

my god where do you get your information?
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You aren’t aware of the human uses of Ivermectin?

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Wow your desperate

Using Inmates as Guinea pigs is acceptable to you?
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not as guinea pugs. the testing has already been done, there are human uses for Ivermectin, starting before covid.

It’s approved by the FDA for human use here in the US. look it up. tell
me if i’m wrong.

It’s a demonstrable lie to say it’s just for horses. it’s widely accepted for human use,
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not as guinea pugs. the testing has already been done, there are human uses for Ivermectin, starting before covid.

It’s approved by the FDA for human use here in the US. look it up. tell
me if i’m wrong.

It’s a demonstrable lie to say it’s just for horses. it’s widely accepted for human use,
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Another episode of everything thing is equal
I should call you DR Spin

This medication is used to treat certain parasitic roundworm infections. Curing parasitic infections

Fringe Doctors’ Groups Promote Ivermectin for COVID despite a Lack of Evidence
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Poor victims

In polling 90% of R voters say Christianity is under attack in US; 2/3-3/4 say Whites now face as much discrimination as minorities; ~2/3 say immigrants are threatening US traditions; ~55% say "traditional way of US life disappearing so fast we may need to use force to save it"
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In polling 90% of R voters say Christianity is under attack in US; 2/3-3/4 say Whites now face as much discrimination as minorities; ~2/3 say immigrants are threatening US traditions; ~55% say "traditional way of US life disappearing so fast we may need to use force to save it"
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when a christian baker can’t choose to not participate in a gay wedding without being hounded out if business, in my opinion christians are under attack, though i’m obviously using the word “attack” pretty loosely.

pete, you’re denying that your side overplays the race card? seriously?

Every time the left doesn’t get exactly what they want, they blame racism. Perhaps people have had enough of being called racist because they don’t always agree with Nancy Pelosi.
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when a christian baker can’t choose to not participate in a gay wedding without being hounded out if business, in my opinion christians are under attack, though i’m obviously using the word “attack” pretty loosely.

pete, you’re denying that your side overplays the race card? seriously?

Every time the left doesn’t get exactly what they want, they blame racism. Perhaps people have had enough of being called racist because they don’t always agree with Nancy Pelosi.
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I said not one of those things but you’re certainly good at echoing the right wing social media machine
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I said not one of those things but you’re certainly good at echoing the right wing social media machine
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i asked you a question. you dodged. so here it is again…


do liberals too often play the race card?
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i asked you a question. you dodged. so here it is again…


do liberals too often play the race card?
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As much as Trumplicans play the victim card, but perhaps I can translate a few things for you:

Christianity under attack -> respect shown for other religions and their followers

Discrimination against whites -> whites not given preference

Traditional way of life threatened -> Whites can no longer take their position in society for granted
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Nice, you posted a long winded article, that no one will read, that basically says what I just said, without a boogie man reference.
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pete, i said that form
can’t hire whites without special
permission from HR.

and somehow, you think
you’re refuting me, when you say that can’t hire whites without getting permission from HR.

Why does every position need to interview non whites before it can be filled?

Your side can’t let go of skin color, it’s all
that matters, like a dog with a meaty bone.

it fires up your base. It runs the risk of turning others off.
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MLK Day is the perfect day to remind everyone that another name for “Critical Race Theory” is “Actual American History”.

Oh, good. Then we can stop calling it Critical Race Theory, and just call it "American History."

Far from stressing that race is “the most important thing,” critical race theory challenges the idea that race is a thing at all. It starts with the premise that there is no biological or scientific justification for racial categories and that race was a socially constructed invention — a fiction, but one that has nevertheless been written into our laws and legislation.

I thought it was American History?

Critical race theory just says let's pay attention to what has happened in this country and how what has happened in this country is continuing to create differential outcomes, so we can become that country that we say we are.

Is that "history" or is it sociological analysis and praxis?

To claim that MLK would have been against critical race theory is patently false, but I suppose if the only thing you have read of his is one sentence then you might believe that.

I don't think Jim actually said MLK would have been against it. But I don't know that it's patently false to say so.

I would suggest that you read Letter from Birmingham but here is a little part of it.

I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.

In your statement you assert that our actions, even though peaceful, must be condemned because they precipitate violence. But is this a logical assertion? Isn't this like condemning a robbed man because his possession of money precipitated the evil act of robbery? Isn't this like condemning Socrates because his unswerving commitment to truth and his philosophical inquiries precipitated the act by the misguided populace in which they made him drink hemlock? Isn't this like condemning Jesus because his unique God consciousness and never ceasing devotion to God's will precipitated the evil act of crucifixion? We must come to see that, as the federal courts have consistently affirmed, it is wrong to urge an individual to cease his efforts to gain his basic constitutional rights because the quest may precipitate violence. Society must protect the robbed and punish the robber. I had also hoped that the white moderate would reject the myth concerning time in relation to the struggle for freedom. I have just received a letter from a white brother in Texas. He writes: "All Christians know that the colored people will receive equal rights eventually, but it is possible that you are in too great a religious hurry. It has taken Christianity almost two thousand years to accomplish what it has. The teachings of Christ take time to come to earth." Such an attitude stems from a tragic misconception of time, from the strangely irrational notion that there is something in the very flow of time that will inevitably cure all ills. Actually, time itself is neutral; it can be used either destructively or constructively. More and more I feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than have the people of good will. We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people but for the appalling silence of the good people. Human progress never rolls in on wheels of inevitability; it comes through the tireless efforts of men willing to be co workers with God, and without this hard work, time itself becomes an ally of the forces of social stagnation. We must use time creatively, in the knowledge that the time is always ripe to do right. Now is the time to make real the promise of democracy and transform our pending national elegy into a creative psalm of brotherhood. Now is the time to lift our national policy from the quicksand of racial injustice to the solid rock of human dignity.


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So, what is there in that letter that is pro-CRT. Especially, what is there in that letter that is for the CRT notion of race being a social construct or for instilling the specifically recommended training and practice that CRT advocates prescribe for work places and schools.
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MLK would have been against using race to hand out covid treatments, and against needing to get permission from HR to hire whites. he’d have been against colleges having no. white forms and jon white graduations. he wanted to ignore race and see character.

that’s about as far away from today’s democrat agenda as you can possibly get.
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MLK would have been against using race to hand out covid treatments, and against needing to get permission from HR to hire whites. he’d have been against colleges having no. white forms and jon white graduations. he wanted to ignore race and see character.

that’s about as far away from today’s democrat agenda as you can possibly get.
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Colin Kaepernick vilified and Kyle Rittenhouse championed speaks volumes about race issues in this country.

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Colin Kaepernick vilified and Kyle Rittenhouse championed speaks volumes about race issues in this country.
I mentioned how only the freedom they agree with does the Right yell freedom. of course it was dismissed
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Did anyone on the right ever say that Kaepernick doesn't have the right to say what he has said? Has anyone on the right said the government should punish him for what he says?

He has the right to say what he wants, and we have the right to criticize him for it. We all have the right to free speech.

You were dismissed, because what you said was absurd.
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We all have the right to free speech.

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He has the right to say what he wants, and we have the right to criticize him for it. We all have the right to free speech.

so you really think that's all that happened




Colin Kaepernick was villainized and ridiculed for kneeling during a song.

by Conservatives


A bar used Colin Kaepernick's jersey as a doormat

for exercising his constitutional right and is being villainize

Republicans Are Still Running Against Colin Kaepernick
On the campaign trail, conservatives run ads that have turned the former NFL quarterback into a favorite punching bag.

Republican candidates across the country, from Tennessee to Pennsylvania, who have incorporated the anti-player protest sentiment into their campaigns.

Many of these same people whom you claim " have the right to criticize him " many the same people who Support what happened on Jan 6th ..... I am confused?

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Colin Kaepernick vilified and Kyle Rittenhouse championed speaks volumes about race issues in this country.
i think Rittenhouse was stupid. But even stupid people
have the right to self defense.

Jon Stewart recently bashed the national anthem, and he’s also getting attacked from the right. What color is john stewart? is racism the reason the right is attacking him, Einstein?

when a black person is criticized,,all you see is race as the reason. no thought about what they did.
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i think Rittenhouse was stupid. But even stupid people
have the right to self defense.

Jon Stewart recently bashed the national anthem, and he’s also getting attacked from the right. What color is john stewart? is racism the reason the right is attacking him, Einstein?

when a black person is criticized,,all you see is race as the reason. no thought about what they did.
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Your usual deflection, and then blat about the latest victimization trending on your social media.

Just what horrible thing did Colin Kaepernick do?
Lie about being vaccinated?
Plausibly accused of rape?
Or, the horror, he took a knee during the national anthem.
No problem with seditionists, wrapping themselves in the flag or using the flag and the pole to attack police officers?🤡
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Your usual deflection, and then blat about the latest victimization trending on your social media.

Just what horrible thing did Colin Kaepernick do?
Lie about being vaccinated?
Plausibly accused of rape?
Or, the horror, he took a knee during the national anthem.
No problem with seditionists, wrapping themselves in the flag or using the flag and the pole to attack police officers?🤡
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You brought up those two guys, I explained why those two guys got treated the way they did, you call it "deflection", because I clobbered you.

Every time you and Wayne lose, its deflection and false equivalency. Conservatives have never been right about a single thing in the history of mankind. Not once, not ever, Because life is exactly that simple.
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White Discomfort must be White Privilege Lite :rollseyes:

Pete must be looking for a way to fire up the "Way Back" machine so he can go back in time so he can talk MLK into losing this line, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." in his I Have A Dream speech, because it's making it real hard for him to sell his racism agenda
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White Discomfort must be White Privilege Lite :rollseyes:

Pete must be looking for a way to fire up the "Way Back" machine so he can go back in time so he can talk MLK into losing this line, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." in his I Have A Dream speech, because it's making it real hard for him to sell his racism agenda
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That one line, MLK's most famous line, spits in the face of much of today's liberal agenda, which puts race above just about everything else.
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That one line, MLK's most famous line, spits in the face of much of today's liberal agenda, which puts race above just about everything else.
Try another line

“Why is equality so assiduously avoided? Why does white America delude itself, and how does it rationalize the evil it retains?
The majority of white Americans consider themselves sincerely committed to justice for the Negro. They believe that American society is essentially hospitable to fair play and to steady growth toward a middle-class Utopia embodying racial harmony. But unfortunately this is a fantasy of self-deception and comfortable vanity.”
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