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Old 01-18-2022, 11:56 AM   #1
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when a christian baker can’t choose to not participate in a gay wedding without being hounded out if business, in my opinion christians are under attack, though i’m obviously using the word “attack” pretty loosely.

pete, you’re denying that your side overplays the race card? seriously?

Every time the left doesn’t get exactly what they want, they blame racism. Perhaps people have had enough of being called racist because they don’t always agree with Nancy Pelosi.
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I said not one of those things but you’re certainly good at echoing the right wing social media machine
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Old 01-18-2022, 12:31 PM   #2
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I said not one of those things but you’re certainly good at echoing the right wing social media machine
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i asked you a question. you dodged. so here it is again…


do liberals too often play the race card?
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Old 01-18-2022, 01:39 PM   #3
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i asked you a question. you dodged. so here it is again…


do liberals too often play the race card?
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As much as Trumplicans play the victim card, but perhaps I can translate a few things for you:

Christianity under attack -> respect shown for other religions and their followers

Discrimination against whites -> whites not given preference

Traditional way of life threatened -> Whites can no longer take their position in society for granted
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Old 01-18-2022, 02:49 PM   #4
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As much as Trumplicans play the victim card, but perhaps I can translate a few things for you:

Christianity under attack -> respect shown for other religions and their followers

Discrimination against whites -> whites not given preference

Traditional way of life threatened -> Whites can no longer take their position in society for granted
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NY state is giving preferential treatment to non whites in terms of covid treatment.

affirmative action, quotas, critical
race theory, all lefty racism.

huge investment firm needs special HR approval to hire whites.

Not what MLK wanted.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...-white-men.amp

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Old 01-18-2022, 04:27 PM   #5
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NY state is giving preferential treatment to non whites in terms of covid treatment.

“Everyone is working very hard to make sure we get it to patients. And part of that strategy is really to give it to people who really need it, who are the most likely to be severely ill from COVID,” Brown said.

Those most likely to benefit: The severely immunocompromised, with multiple chronic illnesses. Also prioritized? The non-vaccinated.

“Unfortunately, the unvaccinated patients, who should have been vaccinated, they are the ones who are going to be eligible as well,” said Dr. Aaron Glatt of Mount Sinai South Nassau Hospital. “I would like to reassure the vaccinated and boosted patients that you really don’t need this drug in general.”

Health officials remind the public there is a better way to boost your protection before you even get sick, and it lasts longer than monoclonal antibodies. It’s called the vaccine.


affirmative action, quotas, critical
race theory, all lefty racism.

huge investment firm needs special HR approval to hire whites.

The firm will still hire White men, McNicholas said, but recruiters are required to show that women and minority applicants were interviewed by the panels.

Not what MLK wanted.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...-white-men.amp

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MLK Day is the perfect day to remind everyone that another name for “Critical Race Theory” is “Actual American History”.

Far from stressing that race is “the most important thing,” critical race theory challenges the idea that race is a thing at all. It starts with the premise that there is no biological or scientific justification for racial categories and that race was a socially constructed invention — a fiction, but one that has nevertheless been written into our laws and legislation.

Critical race theory just says let's pay attention to what has happened in this country and how what has happened in this country is continuing to create differential outcomes, so we can become that country that we say we are.

To claim that MLK would have been against critical race theory is patently false, but I suppose if the only thing you have read of his is one sentence then you might believe that.

I would suggest that you read Letter from Birmingham but here is a little part of it.

I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.

In your statement you assert that our actions, even though peaceful, must be condemned because they precipitate violence. But is this a logical assertion? Isn't this like condemning a robbed man because his possession of money precipitated the evil act of robbery? Isn't this like condemning Socrates because his unswerving commitment to truth and his philosophical inquiries precipitated the act by the misguided populace in which they made him drink hemlock? Isn't this like condemning Jesus because his unique God consciousness and never ceasing devotion to God's will precipitated the evil act of crucifixion? We must come to see that, as the federal courts have consistently affirmed, it is wrong to urge an individual to cease his efforts to gain his basic constitutional rights because the quest may precipitate violence. Society must protect the robbed and punish the robber. I had also hoped that the white moderate would reject the myth concerning time in relation to the struggle for freedom. I have just received a letter from a white brother in Texas. He writes: "All Christians know that the colored people will receive equal rights eventually, but it is possible that you are in too great a religious hurry. It has taken Christianity almost two thousand years to accomplish what it has. The teachings of Christ take time to come to earth." Such an attitude stems from a tragic misconception of time, from the strangely irrational notion that there is something in the very flow of time that will inevitably cure all ills. Actually, time itself is neutral; it can be used either destructively or constructively. More and more I feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than have the people of good will. We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people but for the appalling silence of the good people. Human progress never rolls in on wheels of inevitability; it comes through the tireless efforts of men willing to be co workers with God, and without this hard work, time itself becomes an ally of the forces of social stagnation. We must use time creatively, in the knowledge that the time is always ripe to do right. Now is the time to make real the promise of democracy and transform our pending national elegy into a creative psalm of brotherhood. Now is the time to lift our national policy from the quicksand of racial injustice to the solid rock of human dignity.


https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Article...irmingham.html

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