Desantis is a rock star.

[wdmso]

DeSantis: 'Little Elf' Fauci Should Be Tossed 'Across the Potomac'

He smells Trumps blood in the water
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

DeSantis: 'Little Elf' Fauci Should Be Tossed 'Across the Potomac'

He smells Trumps blood in the water
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Biden: republicans want to put blacks in. chains

chuck schumer: kavanaugh and gorsuch, you’ll reap the whirlwind and never know what hit you.

maxine waters: we should hound members of trump’s cabinet on the street and in restaurants, let them know they aren’t welcome anywhere.



But that’s ok.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Biden: republicans want to put blacks in. chains

chuck schumer: kavanaugh and gorsuch, you’ll reap the whirlwind and never know what hit you.

maxine waters: we should hound members of trump’s cabinet on the street and in restaurants, let them know they aren’t welcome anywhere.



But that’s ok.
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You live in a whataboutism coma
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You live in a whataboutism coma
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can you just tell me why there’s nothing wrong with the statements i posted?

i agree i’m saying “what about when democrats also said terrible things”, but you never explain why it’s ok when your side does it. you just wrote the double standard off as what about-ism. that’s just an answer, it’s a dodge.
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[Pete F.]

"He's better than Trump"

No he isn't.

He’s younger and has learned that Trumpers and the GOP will let you get away with anything. He doesn’t have any integrity or restraint, so will and does govern anti-democratically. In no way is he better.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

"He's better than Trump"

No he isn't.

He’s younger and has learned that Trumpers and the GOP will let you get away with anything. He doesn’t have any integrity or restraint, so will and does govern anti-democratically. In no way is he better.
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Jims missing the point why Ron made the statement" 'Little Elf' Fauci Should Be Tossed 'Across the Potomac'"

he needs Trump voters in the primaries and in the general election

he's not about policy he's 100% in on the culture war stuff that attracts the Jerry springer crowd

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

he's not about policy he's 100% in on the culture war stuff that attracts the Jerry springer crowd

Jerry Springer is a democrat…,just sayin’

I hope that doesn’t insult anyone who may be a democrat



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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

he's not about policy he's 100% in on the culture war stuff that attracts the Jerry springer crowd

huge numbers of people
are moving there, just to get in on the culture war? not for super low taxes?

sorry, your side said governor cuomo was the gold standard of covid. Desantis has more elderly people, kept businesses and schools open more, and has lower death rates than NY. That’s called winning compared to NY, and it’s called freedom.

you’re scared of him, and it shows.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

huge numbers of people
are moving there, just to get in on the culture war? not for super low taxes?

sorry, your side said governor cuomo was the gold standard of covid. Desantis has more elderly people, kept businesses and schools open more, and has lower death rates than NY. That’s called winning compared to NY, and it’s called freedom.

you’re scared of him, and it shows.
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Is DeSantis also going to celebrate that Florida is the state where old people go to die of covid? No state has had more covid deaths than Florida, in the period that all adults were eligible for vaccines.

Fun Florida fact - more GOP registered voters have passed away due to COVID in Fl than the number of people who counted in DeSantis' margin to win. He is now missing people who pushed him over the finish line last time.

And if you want to compare Floriduh to NY

Under Ron DeSantis, your teen is 56% more likely to give birth, her child is 41% more likely to die, your wife is 2/3 more likely to leave you, you're 38% more likely to die of a drug overdose, you're 158% more likely to be shot to death, & seven times more likely to die of COVID.

Freedum…….
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

huge numbers of people
are moving there, just to get in on the culture war? not for super low taxes?

sorry, your side said governor cuomo was the gold standard of covid. Desantis has more elderly people, kept businesses and schools open more, and has lower death rates than NY. That’s called winning compared to NY, and it’s called freedom.

you’re scared of him, and it shows.
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You real need new material

you’re scared of him, and it shows.

No Jim I am not afraid of him he thinks he’s some authoritarian mini me a Trump copycat . And like Trump and his supporters who are the actual threat to our country and it’s institutions

And you have a. Twisted definition of freedom. Based on the people you support.. I would suggest you are the one afraid. Afraid of the Others
Who don’t look or think like you .

That seems to be the litmus test for being a true conservatives American

1st swear allegiance to Trump
2 nd swear allegiance to Trump
3rd swear allegiance to Trump. Maybe a tax cut
4th repeat the election was stolen or at least claim there were irregularities
5th use invasion ,hunter , Hillary , fauci, woke , Bide and dementia or Soros in a sentence once a week
6th never tell or believe .truth or facts . When in doubt refer to rule 1-3

Then your in!
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You real need new material

you’re scared of him, and it shows.

No Jim I am not afraid of him he thinks he’s some authoritarian mini me a Trump copycat . And like Trump and his supporters who are the actual threat to our country and it’s institutions

And you have a. Twisted definition of freedom. Based on the people you support.. I would suggest you are the one afraid. Afraid of the Others
Who don’t look or think like you .

That seems to be the litmus test for being a true conservatives American

1st swear allegiance to Trump
2 nd swear allegiance to Trump
3rd swear allegiance to Trump. Maybe a tax cut
4th repeat the election was stolen or at least claim there were irregularities
5th use invasion ,hunter , Hillary , fauci, woke , Bide and dementia or Soros in a sentence once a week
6th never tell or believe .truth or facts . When in doubt refer to rule 1-3

Then your in!
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it’s “authoritarian” to leave businesses and schools open so people can live their lives!!!! but not authoritarian to close
businesses and force people
to inject experimental medicine they don’t want.

you are priceless.

conservatives want less federal government overall, than liberals.

say that again snag again until it sinks in.

That is the single biggest differentiator between the parties, and you got it completely wrong.
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[Got Stripers]

Kids need all their vaccinations in order to go to school, many diseases have for the most part been eradicated, public health and protection from outbreaks like Covid sometimes isn’t a matter of choice. Still those that choose to not get vaccinated still have choices, home school, self employment, I have no problem with those choices, provided they don’t impact my health.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Kids need all their vaccinations in order to go to school, many diseases have for the most part been eradicated, public health and protection from outbreaks like Covid sometimes isn’t a matter of choice. Still those that choose to not get vaccinated still have choices, home school, self employment, I have no problem with those choices, provided they don’t impact my health.

So what you're saying, is that we can have control over our own bodies, but not to the point where we harm someone else, right?

This is very important...You're saying you're OK with limiting someone's right to choose self autonomy, when that choice would hurt someone else. Right?

Which is the exact pro life position, just applied to another scenerio.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So what you're saying, is that we can have control over our own bodies, but not to the point where we harm someone else, right?

This is very important...You're saying you're OK with limiting someone's right to choose self autonomy, when that choice would hurt someone else. Right?

Which is the exact pro life position, just applied to another scenerio.

that's the sheeps response

A to be or not to be vaccinated is one's Choice.. Government only mandated Government workers. private companies can mandate rules from no smoking to no shoes no shirt no service to maintain civil society

telling a woman she can't get an abortion falls nowhere Near world wide public health emergency


but do what you do best keep convincing yourself Covid 19 and abortion are exactly the same thing

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So what you're saying, is that we can have control over our own bodies, but not to the point where we harm someone else, right?

This is very important...You're saying you're OK with limiting someone's right to choose self autonomy, when that choice would hurt someone else. Right?

Which is the exact pro life position, just applied to another scenerio.

If that someone or something depending on your point of view is inside a women, that's her choice and you know that's my position. Didn't take me long to see your predictable response, I could have guessed what was coming, give or take a word or to.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

If that someone or something depending on your point of view is inside a women, that's her choice and you know that's my position. Didn't take me long to see your predictable response, I could have guessed what was coming, give or take a word or to.

again, that’s why i’ve always said that abortion isn’t about choice. it’s about the status of the baby. right? because you and i both believe that women can do whatever they want as long as they don’t hurt someone else

you and i agree on when choice applies, and when it’s limited ( when someone else is hurt). all abortion is about, then, is whether or not the baby is “someone else”.

every thing else is a smokescreen.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

again, that’s why i’ve always said that abortion isn’t about choice. it’s about the status of the baby. right? because you and i both believe that women can do whatever they want as long as they don’t hurt someone else

you and i agree on when choice applies, and when it’s limited ( when someone else is hurt). all abortion is about, then, is whether or not the baby is “someone else”.

every thing else is a smokescreen.
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Just go to Texas. Today abortion, a medical procedure, is now a felony. Punishable with up to life in prison. No exceptions for rape or incest. If you don’t think this will seriously impact medical care, you are wrong.
Treatment of miscarriage. Treatment of ectopic pregnancy.
Treatment of previable pregnancy loss.
Access to contraception.
Access to fertility care.
And more.
Abortion medications are used to treat incomplete miscarriage and ectopic.

When your water ruptured and the pregnancy is previable you need to induce labor even if the baby has a heartbeat or terminate the pregnancy - otherwise you can become septic and die.

When life is defined as starting at fertilization, as in “personhood” bilks, it can limit the option to have full access to contraception and IVF care.

Nothing about this is pro-life - this is forced birth.

A person should not be forced to risk their life to carry a pregnancy. Pregnancy inherently has risks in every case. And people seek abortion care for terrible circumstances that you could never imagine.

The decision to have an abortion should be personal. You should be allowed to follow your own core beliefs with input from your doctor and family.

Abortion is heath care. Politicians are making medical decisions without understanding the consequences other than political.

And when the consequence for providing essential medical care is a felony, you will see uncertainty and delay in care. Lawyers will get involved. Doctors will leave the state. Even getting care will become difficult. We must not allow this to happen silently.

This is why docs4fertility exists. Your doctors know what is coming. We know this is not safe. And we are not willing to have patient care compromised by politics without a fight.

We support access to the full spectrum of reproductive care for all. Join us.
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[wdmso]

Turkish singer Gulsen has been arrested and accused of inciting hatred over a joke she made about religious schools.

In April, the singer joked a member of her band's "perversion" was due to him having attended one.

Despite the comments being old, they recently went viral online, drawing criticism from conservative circles.

Now we know where Texas and Florida get their inspiration another strong man President Erdogan,

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Turkish singer Gulsen has been arrested and accused of inciting hatred over a joke she made about religious schools.

In April, the singer joked a member of her band's "perversion" was due to him having attended one.

Despite the comments being old, they recently went viral online, drawing criticism from conservative circles.

Now we know where Texas and Florida get their inspiration another strong man President Erdogan,

but it’s ok when a christian baker gets shut down for not wanting to violate his religion. you’re ok with that. because everything is ok when liberals do it.

who has gotten arrested in florida for making jokes about christians?

what planet do you live on, exactly?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

what planet do you live on, exactly?

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this is a great line which explains the mental disorder and applies to more than just biden....

"Biden doesn’t just hate Donald Trump. He hates anyone who doesn’t hate Donald Trump."

goes well with the newly minted democrap term..."almost semi-fascism"

if you don't hate trump you are almost semi-fascist......

seems like the exact kind of societal division the fascists engaged in ironically...

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

but it’s ok when a christian baker gets shut down for not wanting to violate his religion. you’re ok with that. because everything is ok when liberals do it.

who has gotten arrested in florida for making jokes about christians?

what planet do you live on, exactly?
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So in Christians view Christ was selective in who he loved, ya know like not gays, libs and immigrants

“I give you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, so you also must love each other. This is how everyone will know that you are my disciples, when you love each other.”
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

So in Christians view Christ was selective in who he loved, ya know like not gays, libs and immigrants

“I give you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, so you also must love each other. This is how everyone will know that you are my disciples, when you love each other.”
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why would christians believe christ didn’t live gays? love the sinner, not the sin.

and i was pro gay marriage when obama and hilary were opposed to it, which means i was in favor of it when you were still opposed to it, since your central nervous system commands you always agree with liberals.
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[Pete F.]

Ron DeSantis bullies LGBTQ kids and kids wearing masks, wastes taxpayer money on defending obviously unconstitutional laws, tries to ban books, uses his power to attack people he politically disagrees with, outlaws abortion, creates policies that lead to one of the highest COVID death rates in the country, and for all that, he's Jim and Scott’s hero.
They just love a leaning centaur.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Ron DeSantis bullies LGBTQ kids and kids wearing masks, wastes taxpayer money on defending obviously unconstitutional laws, tries to ban books, uses his power to attack people he politically disagrees with, outlaws abortion, creates policies that lead to one of the highest COVID death rates in the country, and for all that, he's Jim and Scott’s hero.
They just love a leaning centaur.
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I bet he gets reelected even though all of the republicans in Florida died from Covid

[The Dad Fisherman]

I guess this is what it looks like when the “glue” that helps you “keep it together” turns to powder.

A little more unhinged than usual this morning.
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[wdmso]

Ron and his new voting police telling the Maga base what they want to hear

20 were charged for voter fraud in Florida.

But of course reality and the details are absent in Ron’s mini campaign event on Fla taxpayers dime

Florida law requires "the state to prove that someone willfully, intentionally, knowingly registered or voted while knowing that they were ineligible."

Many registered to vote and the state sent ballots to these same people

In 2018, Florida voters approved a ballot measure so that the state would automatically restore the voting rights of people with prior felony convictions — except for people who committed murder or a felony sex offense.

And Ron and Republicans changed and added

But during the following legislative session, the state legislature stepped in and passed legislation that required these returning citizens to fulfill every part of their sentence, including paying any fees or fines, in order to regain voting rights.


Thats Ron and republicans respecting voter discrimination against citizens who committed a crime and paid their debt to society . By adding what’s a poll tax.

So Ron created a personal police force to find voter fraud . Who can only find 20 examples of what clearly isn’t fraudulent . Because of the System to maintain a database doesn’t exist to tell those who approve a person voter registration who’s eligible and who isn’t

Republicans fixings issues starting with the roof 1st.
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[Pete F.]

The DeSantis campaign is doubling down on culture wars today and posting videos from Proud Boys and Moms for Liberty to attack a special education teacher. DeSantis is NOT pro-parent, he is anti-science, anti- culture, anti-professional and anti anyone not like him.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The DeSantis campaign is doubling down on culture wars today and posting videos from Proud Boys and Moms for Liberty to attack a special education teacher. DeSantis is NOT pro-parent, he is anti-science, anti- culture, anti-professional and anti anyone not like him.
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should be a layup for crist....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

should be a layup for crist....

yup. and explains why nobody wants to live in FL.
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[Pete F.]

While DeSantis stopped CRT that didn't exist, called teachers groomers and banned abortions, Floridians saw average property insurance rates soar from $1,988 in 2019 to $4,231 in 2022.