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Old 11-09-2019, 11:34 AM   #1
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This process should not be held in open Session with public hearings and should not be televised. It's a Witch Hunt in should be behind closed doors.
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So did Putin and Orban tell Trump that it wasn’t Russia it was Ukraine?
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Coming to a television near you, Trump and Trumplicans are spinning as fast as they can

CBS is the first U.S. broadcast network to announce its plans to pre-empt regular daytime programming for coverage of next week’s first public hearings in the impeachment inquiry. All of the broadcast networks are expected to join cable news channels and news streaming services to cover the hearings, which will start Wednesday with the testimony of Bill Taylor, the top diplomat in Ukraine, and George Kent, deputy assistant secretary in the European and Eurasian Bureau at the State Department.

The House Intelligence Committee evidence-gathering goes public on November 13 and will be shown on BBC Parliament, which usually brings audiences live action from the British Houses of Parliament.
However, because a December 12 election has been called in the UK — the first December election since 1923 — Parliament has been dissolved, meaning the BBC is looking for content to fill BBC Parliament’s schedule. To this end, the channel will go live from Washington D.C. next week.
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Republicans Ask For Whistleblower, Hunter Biden To Testify In Impeachment Inquiry

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We can call this the Reo Speedwagon fauxpeachment . . .

Heard it from a friend, who heard it from a friend, who heard it from a friend you've been messin' around . . .

Did anyone else see in the Vindman transcript where Rep. Ratcliffe walked Vindman into an Article 92 along with an Article 88 violation (pgs 158-161)?

Ratcliffe gets Vindman to stipulate that President Trump is Lt. Col Vindman’s superior and the President alone sets foreign policy.

Vindman testifies that he thought the President was trying to establish an agreement with Zelenskyy that Vindman did not agree with and shortly thereafter Vindman began giving contrary instructions to Ukranian government officials, to ignore said agreement, Vindman admits telling Ukrainian government officials to stay out of these affairs, to not get involved.

Vindman’s lawyer sees where Ratcliffe's questioning is going and flips out.

A military officer working in the White House, at the pleasure of the President and then undermining the President with foreign officials sure sounds like a coup to me. Given the military command's complete silence on Vindman's seditious if not traitorous actions, can we assume the coup has the acknowledgement, approval and support of the military right up to the Joint Chiefs?


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We can call this the Reo Speedwagon fauxpeachment . . .

Heard it from a friend, who heard it from a friend, who heard it from a friend you've been messin' around . . .

Did anyone else see in the Vindman transcript where Rep. Ratcliffe walked Vindman into an Article 92 along with an Article 88 violation (pgs 158-161)?

Ratcliffe gets Vindman to stipulate that President Trump is Lt. Col Vindman’s superior and the President alone sets foreign policy.

Vindman testifies that he thought the President was trying to establish an agreement with Zelenskyy that Vindman did not agree with and shortly thereafter Vindman began giving contrary instructions to Ukranian government officials, to ignore said agreement, Vindman admits telling Ukrainian government officials to stay out of these affairs, to not get involved.

Vindman’s lawyer sees where Ratcliffe's questioning is going and flips out.

A military officer working in the White House, at the pleasure of the President and then undermining the President with foreign officials sure sounds like a coup to me. Given the military command's complete silence on Vindman's seditious if not traitorous actions, can we assume the coup has the acknowledgement, approval and support of the military right up to the Joint Chiefs?


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It won’t have Putin’s
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It won’t have Putin’s

And that reply goes directly to the entire "Resistance"mentality. It is your feeling that "it won't have Putin's" support but just like Vindman, you would be unable to articulate an actual legal, factual support for your statement . . . It's all characterizations, sentiments, feelings, all borne out of political agenda.

Ratcliffe repeatedly asked Vindman about how he characterized the call, how he was "concerned" about the call, how he did not think it was "proper" and how those feelings evolved into Vindman's conclusion that the conversation was a "demand". Vindman dissembled and admitted that he didn't "parse his words carefully" and that he's "not an attorney" and that he, "just wrote it the way [he] felt it".

Feelings set this ball rolling and nothing but hearsay has kept it rolling.. . .

Vindman could not describe how the request for assistance was a violation of law or the mutual cooperation treaty between the US and Ukraine that requires Ukraine to assist and cooperate with the US in criminal investigations when asked.

His disagreement was based in feelings . . . as is your poor excuse of a reply above.



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We can call this the Reo Speedwagon fauxpeachment . . .

Heard it from a friend, who heard it from a friend, who heard it from a friend you've been messin' around . . .

Did anyone else see in the Vindman transcript where Rep. Ratcliffe walked Vindman into an Article 92 along with an Article 88 violation (pgs 158-161)?

Ratcliffe gets Vindman to stipulate that President Trump is Lt. Col Vindman’s superior and the President alone sets foreign policy.

Vindman testifies that he thought the President was trying to establish an agreement with Zelenskyy that Vindman did not agree with and shortly thereafter Vindman began giving contrary instructions to Ukranian government officials, to ignore said agreement, Vindman admits telling Ukrainian government officials to stay out of these affairs, to not get involved.

Vindman’s lawyer sees where Ratcliffe's questioning is going and flips out.

A military officer working in the White House, at the pleasure of the President and then undermining the President with foreign officials sure sounds like a coup to me. Given the military command's complete silence on Vindman's seditious if not traitorous actions, can we assume the coup has the acknowledgement, approval and support of the military right up to the Joint Chiefs?


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to use your own words

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The us government does mutual investigations all the time
Per the treaty
Not by Colludy and his band of corrupt collaborators trying to gain control of the energy industry in Ukraine.
Ending corrupt investigations for money and political purposes is the platform Zelensky ran on, Floridaman put him in the middle of a place he and his country did not want to be in and cut off all his ways out, then threw him to Putin.
Next you’ll be claiming Parnas and Fruman, more people Floridaman never heard of, are American heroes.
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The us government does mutual investigations all the time Per the treaty
Not by Colludy and his band of corrupt collaborators trying to gain control of the energy industry in Ukraine.
A characterization based in feelings that flow from your political agenda, supported by confirmation bias (AKA, a propagandized personal opinion).

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Ending corrupt investigations for money and political purposes is the platform Zelensky ran on,
Correct, and Trump wanted to confirm that commitment before he gave them a couple hundred million dollars and to be sure the new government would be of Zelenskyy's choosing and have no foot resting in the corrupt past.

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Floridaman put him in the middle of a place he and his country did not want to be in and cut off all his ways out, then threw him to Putin.
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Next you’ll be claiming Parnas and Fruman, more people Floridaman never heard of, are American heroes.
Only if you are claiming Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch are. I can't think of anyone who believes opposition research is a white glove affair, hands get muddy.

Things don't suddenly get to be called inappropriate (or even called-out as criminal) just because they benefit a Republican.

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A characterization based in feelings that flow from your political agenda, supported by confirmation bias (AKA, a propagandized personal opinion).



Correct, and Trump wanted to confirm that commitment before he gave them a couple hundred million dollars and to be sure the new government would be of Zelenskyy's choosing and have no foot resting in the corrupt past.



Again, a characterization based in feelings that flow from your political agenda, supported by confirmation bias (AKA, a propagandized personal opinion).



Only if you are claiming Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch are. I can't think of anyone who believes opposition research is a white glove affair, hands get muddy.

Things don't suddenly get to be called inappropriate (or even called-out as criminal) just because they benefit a Republican.

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No they don’t
But they should be when they, as these do, consist of bribery, extortion, abuse of power and conspiracy.
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But they should be when they, as these do, consist of bribery, extortion, abuse of power and conspiracy.

And again, a characterization based in feelings that flow from your political agenda, supported by confirmation bias (AKA, a propagandized personal opinion).


Haven't you exhausted yourself furiously masturbating these conspiracy theories only to be denied again and again?



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And again, a characterization based in feelings that flow from your political agenda, supported by confirmation bias (AKA, a propagandized personal opinion).


Haven't you exhausted yourself furiously masturbating these conspiracy theories only to be denied again and again?
So when your arguments fail you resort to typical Trumplican nasty verbiage
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I'm the conductor of my own orchestra. In other words, your question is as ignorant and narrow minded as you appear to be.

Reelin Rod has it all over you in a rational discussion.

You're the queen of innuendo and the king of conjecture. The cis-pseudo master of could, maybe, perhaps, if, of the "rumor is" . . . The sorcerer's apprentice of false juxtaposition, flimsy comparisons . . . your mind is a quicksand of possibilities that you half understand and wish were true and opinions that mostly aren't.

Reelin Rod is rock solid, has a clear grasp of actual facts.

And I composed that entirely on my own. Didn't have to find a link or read and paste a biased article. Nor participate in a circle jerk of "choir" boys. I've heard enough dissonant chords from you and your howling chorus to see what you are.
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I'm the conductor of my own orchestra. In other words, your question is as ignorant and narrow minded as you appear to be.

Reelin Rod has it all over you in a rational discussion.

You're the queen of innuendo and the king of conjecture. The cis-pseudo master of could, maybe, perhaps, if, of the "rumor is" . . . The sorcerer's apprentice of false juxtaposition, flimsy comparisons . . . your mind is a quicksand of possibilities that you half understand and wish were true and opinions that mostly aren't.

Reelin Rod is rock solid, has a clear grasp of actual facts.

And I composed that entirely on my own. Didn't have to find a link or read and paste a biased article. Nor participate in a circle jerk of "choir" boys. I've heard enough dissonant chords from you and your howling chorus to see what you are.
Verbiage as usual, a blithering attack.
No facts because there are none to defend Floridaman
He committed crimes
Bribery
Extortion
Abuse of Power
He’s Putin’s Puppet
The weakest president ever.
All the rest of the world sees how ineffectual he is
He has no plan, no skill other than the ability to lie with a straight face and accuse others of that which he is guilty of.
You should wonder why he claims Treason since he constantly projects.
Floridaman will be exposed as the conman that he has always been.
Some people say he’s a Stable Genius with a very very large brain, great and unmatched wisdom, tiny hands and a .... like the mushroom character in Mario Kart ...

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Verbiage as usual, a blithering attack.

You throw a stupid piece of verbiage at me and then expect an official record in return? You're also a proficient practicioner of the kettle calling the pot black.

No facts because there are none to defend Floridaman

"And again, a characterization based in feelings that flow from your political agenda, supported by confirmation bias (AKA, a propagandized personal opinion)."


He committed crimes
Bribery
Extortion
Abuse of Power

These are not facts, they're "And again, a characterization based in feelings that flow from your political agenda, supported by confirmation bias (AKA, a propagandized personal opinion)."


He’s Putin’s Puppet

"And again, a characterization based in feelings that flow from your political agenda, supported by confirmation bias (AKA, a propagandized personal opinion)."


The weakest president ever.

"And again, a characterization based in feelings that flow from your political agenda, supported by confirmation bias (AKA, a propagandized personal opinion)."


All the rest of the world sees how ineffectual he is

"And again, a characterization based in feelings that flow from your political agenda, supported by confirmation bias (AKA, a propagandized personal opinion)."


He has no plan, no skill other than the ability to lie with a straight face and accuse others of that which he is guilty of.

"And again, a characterization based in feelings that flow from your political agenda, supported by confirmation bias (AKA, a propagandized personal opinion)."


You should wonder why he claims Treason since he constantly projects.

"And again, a characterization based in feelings that flow from your political agenda, supported by confirmation bias (AKA, a propagandized personal opinion)."


Floridaman will be exposed as the conman that he has always been.
Some people say he’s a Stable Genius with a very very large brain, great and unmatched wisdom, tiny hands and a .... like the mushroom character in Mario Kart ...
And you end your verbiage exactly as Reelin Rod has nailed it "And again, a characterization based in feelings that flow from your political agenda, supported by confirmation bias (AKA, a propagandized personal opinion)."
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And you end your verbiage exactly as Reelin Rod has nailed it "And again, a characterization based in feelings that flow from your political agenda, supported by confirmation bias (AKA, a propagandized personal opinion)."
Cult members just keep blindly following the conman to Trumptown

Since we’re really concerned about corruption
Let’s just invite the President of Turkey to the White House
1. Laundered Iranian funds
2. Bought Russian missile system
3. Feel free to do a quick google search https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C....0.G48c7Xnx4lI
WASHINGTON – In a remarkable rebuke of a NATO ally, the House on Tuesday approved a biting sanctions bill that could cripple Turkey's economy and would punish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan personally by requiring an assessment of his net worth amid questions about his finances in Turkey.

Sure seems to be concerned with corruption, except if it’s a mutual friend of Putin’s

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Since we’re really concerned about corruption
Let’s just invite the President of Turkey to the White House
1. Laundered Iranian funds
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WASHINGTON – In a remarkable rebuke of a NATO ally, the House on Tuesday approved a biting sanctions bill that could cripple Turkey's economy and would punish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan personally by requiring an assessment of his net worth amid questions about his finances in Turkey.

Sure seems to be concerned with corruption, except if it’s a mutual friend of Putin’s

And Vindman testified that he thought Obozo sold Javelins to Ukraine . . . When in truth Obozo denied all lethal aid.

Where was Vindman's concern for Ukraine when Obozo was sending them blankets, where was his deception and behind the scenes sedition when Obozo was denying Ukraine effective defensive tools to fight Putin?

Don't bother looking on Vox, I looked, they haven't issued talking points on this yet.



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Roger Stone trial witness Rick Gates exposing things re Wikileaks that the Stable Genius with one of the great memories of all time “did not recall” in his written testimony to the Mueller investigation.

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I was thinking more along the lines of scummy when I just read that post.

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That's a whole lot of smoke.............

So what was Trump's reason for withholding aid to Ukraine?

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