Johns Hopkins University says US was most prepared country in world for pandemic

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I am happy to live in the state with the lowest COVID transmission rate in the COUNTRY.

THANK YOU MR PRESIDENT
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Thank Charlie Baker your guy had nothing to do with this states results.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Thank Charlie Baker your guy had nothing to do with this states results.
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OK ❄️

I forgot he is ONLY accountable for deaths in your TDS handbook.🤡

[detbuch]

June 23 (UPI) -- Dr. Anthony Fauci told a House panel Tuesday that he has never been asked to slow down testing for COVID-19 and again expressed hope that a vaccine will be ready by the end of 2020 or early 2021.

Asked about statements by President Donald Trump at a campaign rally Saturday that he had asked for a slowdown in testing, Fauci, director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said that neither he nor any other top U.S. health officials have been requested to do so.

"To my knowledge, none of us have ever been told to slow down on testing. That just is a fact," he told members the House energy and commerce committee. "In fact, we will be doing more testing."

The president drew criticism when he suggested spikes in coronavirus cases in several states were due to increased testing.

Other members of the White House Coronavirus Task Force -- including Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Stephen Hahn, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield and Health and Human Services Assistant Secretary Brett Giroir -- each answered "no" when similarly asked if they had been instructed to slow down COVID-19 testing.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

June 23 (UPI) -- Dr. Anthony Fauci told a House panel Tuesday that he has never been asked to slow down testing for COVID-19 and again expressed hope that a vaccine will be ready by the end of 2020 or early 2021.

Asked about statements by President Donald Trump at a campaign rally Saturday that he had asked for a slowdown in testing, Fauci, director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said that neither he nor any other top U.S. health officials have been requested to do so.

"To my knowledge, none of us have ever been told to slow down on testing. That just is a fact," he told members the House energy and commerce committee. "In fact, we will be doing more testing."

The president drew criticism when he suggested spikes in coronavirus cases in several states were due to increased testing.

Other members of the White House Coronavirus Task Force -- including Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Stephen Hahn, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield and Health and Human Services Assistant Secretary Brett Giroir -- each answered "no" when similarly asked if they had been instructed to slow down COVID-19 testing.

In other words, Trump has no idea or control over what is going on and is intentionally creating confusion to aid his re-election campaign.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

In other words, Trump has no idea or control over what is going on and is intentionally creating confusion to aid his re-election campaign.
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Yeah, that's it

[Pete F.]

He said today when asked if his testing comment was a joke “I never kid”
But in Bizzaro world I assume that means he’s always kidding.
I get it, his script was exchanged with a comic book from the 60s
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

He said today when asked if his testing comment was a joke “I never kid”
But in Bizzaro world I assume that means he’s always kidding.
I get it, his script was exchanged with a comic book from the 60s
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pete, since things are so bad for trump at this point, you can probably treat yourself and take a week or two off....you've worked very hard every day for nearly 4 years and it's finally paying off...you deserve it!

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

He said today when asked if his testing comment was a joke “I never kid”
But in Bizzaro world I assume that means he’s always kidding.
I get it, his script was exchanged with a comic book from the 60s
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He jokes a lot. He even said that his remark in question was semi-tongue in cheek. And he has also said that he did not actually tell his staff to slow the testing. So, obviously, his "I never kid," if it referred to his rally remark, was that there was a serious point being made with his semi-tongue in cheek schtick about asking his staff to slow the testing.

The point being made is that media would not give him what he considered proper credit for the massive testing his administration was doing--and his sarcasm (or semi-tongue in cheek) was a way of sarcastically pointing out that we were doing exactly what he would not get credit for.

So in the brief interview where he said he never kids, he took the rare opportunity to use the media, rather than just tweets, to pound on the fact that we are doing a lot of testing--which is exactly what he did by brushing aside the question about his remark and jumping directly and heavily into telling the people about the success that he would not otherwise get credit for in the media that wanted to waste time on an obvious "joke." He would never kid about something that serious and important, but would use sarcasm to illustrate what was not being reported.

It would be incredulous to believe he would seriously broadcast to the nation that he had asked his staff to slow down the testing. That would easily be proved to be true if it were true. He knew that it would easily be proved not to be true. It was obviously some kind of attempt to humorously point out to his rally crowd, and to those watching on some form of internet media or traditional media, how much testing we were really doing in spite of the narrative that he lacked on testing--so much testing that he had to ask his staff to slow it down, chuckle, chuckle

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

He jokes a lot. He even said that his remark in question was semi-tongue in cheek. And he has also said that he did not actually tell his staff to slow the testing. So, obviously, his "I never kid," if it referred to his rally remark, was that there was a serious point being made with his semi-tongue in cheek schtick about asking his staff to slow the testing.

The point being made is that media would not give him what he considered proper credit for the massive testing his administration was doing--and his sarcasm (or semi-tongue in cheek) was a way of sarcastically pointing out that we were doing exactly what he would not get credit for.

So in the brief interview where he said he never kids, he took the rare opportunity to use the media, rather than just tweets, to pound on the fact that we are doing a lot of testing--which is exactly what he did by brushing aside the question about his remark and jumping directly and heavily into telling the people about the success that he would not otherwise get credit for in the media that wanted to waste time on an obvious "joke." He would never kid about something that serious and important, but would use sarcasm to illustrate what was not being reported.

It would be incredulous to believe he would seriously broadcast to the nation that he had asked his staff to slow down the testing. That would easily be proved to be true if it were true. He knew that it would easily be proved not to be true. It was obviously some kind of attempt to humorously point out to his rally crowd, and to those watching on some form of internet media or traditional media, how much testing we were really doing in spite of the narrative that he lacked on testing--so much testing that he had to ask his staff to slow it down, chuckle, chuckle

Unfortunately Tweety's claim to have done the most testing in the world is like his saying it depends on which per capita you are using.
Testing is not just how many you test or what you want the results to be, but needs to be part of a comprehensive testing, tracing and control regimen.
The current positivity rate for testing in the US nationwide is over 5% and while that is good, one should note as someone did on here that what is more important is where specific localities are with positivity results.
In Arizona it is over 20%, way over the recommended level to implement social distancing, but they had a rally there
In Florida it is over 13% and rising, rally is coming
Twenty other states have rates over 5%
Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina and Texas have increases in both new cases and positivity rates.
The first wave is not over, never mind the possibility of a second wave in the fall.
All that has happened so far is that the states that were affected early and implemented measures to control are doing better, states that were not in the initial hit are doing worse and simultaneously removing control requirements.

I have understood you to say previously that we should not expect the president to be a leader, I disagree but have seen that in any case he is incapable of performing that function.

He's not even a good standup comedian.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

He's not even a good standup comedian.

Wow . . . the scope of your expertise keeps expanding. You're almost as good as Professor Irwin Corey.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

He jokes a lot. He even said that his remark in question was semi-tongue in cheek. And he has also said that he did not actually tell his staff to slow the testing. So, obviously, his "I never kid," if it referred to his rally remark, was that there was a serious point being made with his semi-tongue in cheek schtick about asking his staff to slow the testing.

The point being made is that media would not give him what he considered proper credit for the massive testing his administration was doing--and his sarcasm (or semi-tongue in cheek) was a way of sarcastically pointing out that we were doing exactly what he would not get credit for.

So in the brief interview where he said he never kids, he took the rare opportunity to use the media, rather than just tweets, to pound on the fact that we are doing a lot of testing--which is exactly what he did by brushing aside the question about his remark and jumping directly and heavily into telling the people about the success that he would not otherwise get credit for in the media that wanted to waste time on an obvious "joke." He would never kid about something that serious and important, but would use sarcasm to illustrate what was not being reported.

It would be incredulous to believe he would seriously broadcast to the nation that he had asked his staff to slow down the testing. That would easily be proved to be true if it were true. He knew that it would easily be proved not to be true. It was obviously some kind of attempt to humorously point out to his rally crowd, and to those watching on some form of internet media or traditional media, how much testing we were really doing in spite of the narrative that he lacked on testing--so much testing that he had to ask his staff to slow it down, chuckle, chuckle

He's either intentionally or unintentionally sewing confusion because it's a topic that is hurting his reelection. That makes him either evil or incompetent. This isn't that complicated.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

He's either intentionally or unintentionally sewing confusion because it's a topic that is hurting his reelection. That makes him either evil or incompetent. This isn't that complicated.

For something that you say isn't complicated, you complicate it with various possibilities--while predictably leaving out other possibilities which would be more accurate than yours. But, understandably, for you it isn't complicated. You basically have the same basic possibility for all things--Orange Man Bad.

[Pete F.]

Just keep believing in the Con man
History will find the truth
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Just keep believing in the Con man
History will find the truth
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just keep obsessing

[Pete F.]

Speaking of obsession, have you listened to the con man you consistently defend?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Speaking of obsession, have you listened to the con man you consistently defend?
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when did I defend him?

[scottw]

oh...here's one....


Originally Posted by Got Stripers

My metaphors were perfect regardless of your opinion

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very trumplike....

[Sea Dangles]

It wouldn’t be a big deal if you came clean,my thin amigo.

Obviously you have an opinion about what exactly compromises a lie.
This makes you an expert
No insult, just a compliment!
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

It wouldn’t be a big deal if you came clean,my thin amigo.

Obviously you have an opinion about what exactly compromises a lie.
This makes you an expert
No insult, just a compliment!
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Come clean with what? I said it was a mistake 2 times before.

You just want to call me a liar and don't care what John and Kevin have said. Like I said earlier, you just spit in their face my fat amigo.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Come clean with what? I said it was a mistake 2 times before.

You just want to call me a liar and don't care what John and Kevin have said. Like I said earlier, you just spit in their face my fat amigo.

Thank you for wiping it off
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Thank you for wiping it off
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You're a vile person.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Thank you for wiping it off
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Chris - you really need to lighten up.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Chris - you really need to lighten up.

I dont suffer fools lightly
But lightening up is a good start

[Got Stripers]

Well the US is back to the peak April levels, but hey let’s stop funding for pop up testing, let’s suggest if we didn’t test these numbers wouldn’t look that bad. Get the rally’s going sans masks, let evolution take its natural course, get those states open we need to crank up the economy. Those that we sacrifice due to our collective stupidity will have died for a good cause.

On a side note, if it wasn’t clear to anyone Barr is a criminal, today’s testimony pretty much answered that question. He should have looked at what happened to other AG’s in history prior to accepting the job of Trump’s personal fixer.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

On a side note, if it wasn’t clear to anyone Barr is a criminal

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he has great courage...a true patriot

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by scottw

he has great courage...a true patriot

I’m sure Nixon thought the same about Mitchell🤣

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Well the US is back to the peak April levels, but hey let’s stop funding for pop up testing, let’s suggest if we didn’t test these numbers wouldn’t look that bad. Get the rally’s going sans masks, let evolution take its natural course, get those states open we need to crank up the economy. Those that we sacrifice due to our collective stupidity will have died for a good cause.

From The Hill:

The Trump administration is not abandoning federally funded coronavirus testing sites, the administration's COVID-19 testing "czar" said Wednesday.

Adm. Brett Giroir, the assistant secretary for the Department of Health and Human Services, said that even though the government will stop directly funding 13 community-based coronavirus testing sites, the amount of testing will not decrease, and the sites should not lose resources.


"We are not withdrawing support," Giroir said. "We are providing federal support in a different way."

Giroir said the sites, which are located in Texas, Illinois, New Jersey, Colorado and Pennsylvania, will be supported by the $11 billion Congress allocated for testing and contact tracing, just like hundreds of other sites across the country.

"We have worked carefully to make sure that [the 13 sites] could sunset without losing any services to any people," Giroir said.

Giroir said those 13 sites will remain open and will be operated by the states. He said governors were aware of the plan to transition to state control, which had been in place since April . . .

Giroir said there has never been an intention to decrease testing, and governors know that.

"Let me say definitively that we are moving to increase testing. Both the number, the quantity and the targeting on social vulnerability, and we will continue to do that" Giroir said.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) established 41 community-based testing sites in coronavirus hot spots across the country in March, but the program has evolved since those initial sites opened, and now only 13 are remaining.

Those sites are now outdated, Giroir said. They were narrowly focused and operated when supplies were much more limited.

Giroir said there are now more than 600 testing sites in 48 states, operating under a federal program that will reimburse retail pharmacies for providing tests.

[Got Stripers]

Trump administration has yet to spend more than $8 billion of the $25 billion Congress appropriated for coronavirus testing in April. The administration has also failed to spend $4 billion in funds for Covid-19 contact tracing and nearly $2 billion to provide free testing for the uninsured.

Funny you can “joke” about asking your people to slow testing and frankly I actually believe that is exactly what he wants, but if you make no efforts to get the funds out to where they need to go, you are effectively doing just that. We now have a new daily high, damn if only we could slow down testing it wouldn’t look so bad going into November.
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[detbuch]

Trump very seriously said that the large testing was the right thing to do. He seriously bragged about it. When asked by Congress, none of his staff said that they were asked to slow down the testing, and that they were going to do even more, to expand the rate of testing. Trump seriously bragged about the testing.

But he made a joke. And, funny, how it is the joke that must be payed attention to . . . at least by those who hate him. And even though the joke was meant to highlight the good, massive testing and to point out that his administration was not getting the credit for it.

Yup . . . it's the joke that matters. Sick.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Trump very seriously said that the large testing was the right thing to do. He seriously bragged about it. When asked by Congress, none of his staff said that they were asked to slow down the testing, and that they were going to do even more, to expand the rate of testing. Trump seriously bragged about the testing.

But he made a joke. And, funny, how it is the joke that must be payed attention to . . . at least by those who hate him. And even though the joke was meant to highlight the good, massive testing and to point out that his administration was not getting the credit for it.

Yup . . . it's the joke that matters. Sick.

Everything every president says matters, this is something he doesn’t understand, just like suggesting a mask for him isn’t a good look. Actions matter too.
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