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				He said today when asked if his testing comment was a joke “I never kid” 
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I get it, his script was exchanged with a comic book from the 60s 
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				Thank Charlie Baker your guy had nothing to do with this states results. 
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				He said today when asked if his testing comment was a joke “I never kid” 
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 He jokes a lot.  He even said that his remark in question was semi-tongue in cheek.  And he has also said that he did not actually tell his staff to slow the testing.  So, obviously, his "I never kid," if it referred to his rally remark, was that there was a serious point being made with his semi-tongue in cheek schtick about asking his staff to slow the testing.
 
The point being made is that media would not give him what he considered proper credit for the massive testing his administration was doing--and his sarcasm (or semi-tongue in cheek) was a way of sarcastically pointing out that we were doing exactly what he would not get credit for.
 
So in the brief interview where he said he never kids, he took the rare opportunity to use the media, rather than just tweets, to pound on the fact that we are doing a lot of testing--which is exactly what he did by brushing aside the question about his remark and jumping directly and heavily into telling the people about the success that he would not otherwise get credit for in the media that wanted to waste time on an obvious "joke."  He would never kid about something that serious and important, but would use sarcasm to illustrate what was not being reported. 
 
It would be incredulous to believe he would seriously broadcast to the nation that he had asked his staff to slow down the testing.  That would easily be proved to be true if it were true.  He knew that it would easily be proved not to be true.  It was obviously some kind of attempt to humorously point out to his rally crowd, and to those watching on some form of internet media or traditional media, how much testing we were really doing in spite of the narrative that he lacked on testing--so much testing that he had to ask his staff to slow it down, chuckle, chuckle  
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Speaking of obsession, have you listened to the con man you consistently defend? 
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				Speaking of obsession, have you listened to the con man you consistently defend? 
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 Either tell me why I am a liar or this will show why I think you are a scum bag and the most vile person here.  
 
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		 I do not have time to go thorough EVERY post and every thread as I work my ass off with the job that PAYS the bills. 
 
Dangles: ZERO use of the ANY variation of tard unless it is specific to the technical aspect of advance of something mechanical, like timing. This includes the substitution of "technical aspect of advance of something mechanical, like timing" into a political or mental sense. No circumventing. Got it? 
 
That goes for everyone else, too. An arena of ideas, not insults please. 
 
 
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				He jokes a lot.  He even said that his remark in question was semi-tongue in cheek.  And he has also said that he did not actually tell his staff to slow the testing.  So, obviously, his "I never kid," if it referred to his rally remark, was that there was a serious point being made with his semi-tongue in cheek schtick about asking his staff to slow the testing. 
 
The point being made is that media would not give him what he considered proper credit for the massive testing his administration was doing--and his sarcasm (or semi-tongue in cheek) was a way of sarcastically pointing out that we were doing exactly what he would not get credit for. 
 
So in the brief interview where he said he never kids, he took the rare opportunity to use the media, rather than just tweets, to pound on the fact that we are doing a lot of testing--which is exactly what he did by brushing aside the question about his remark and jumping directly and heavily into telling the people about the success that he would not otherwise get credit for in the media that wanted to waste time on an obvious "joke."  He would never kid about something that serious and important, but would use sarcasm to illustrate what was not being reported.  
 
It would be incredulous to believe he would seriously broadcast to the nation that he had asked his staff to slow down the testing.  That would easily be proved to be true if it were true.  He knew that it would easily be proved not to be true.  It was obviously some kind of attempt to humorously point out to his rally crowd, and to those watching on some form of internet media or traditional media, how much testing we were really doing in spite of the narrative that he lacked on testing--so much testing that he had to ask his staff to slow it down, chuckle, chuckle 
			
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 Unfortunately Tweety's claim to have done the most testing in the world is like his saying it depends on which per capita you are using. 
Testing is not just how many you test or what you want the results to be, but needs to be part of a comprehensive testing, tracing and control regimen. 
The current positivity rate for testing in the US nationwide is over 5% and while that is good, one should note as someone did on here that what is more important is where specific localities are with positivity results. 
In Arizona it is over 20%, way over the recommended level to implement social distancing, but they had a rally there 
In Florida it is over 13% and rising, rally is coming 
Twenty other states have rates over 5% 
Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina and Texas have increases in both new cases and positivity rates. 
The first wave is not over, never mind the possibility of a second wave in the fall. 
All that has happened so far is that the states that were affected early and implemented measures to control are doing better, states that were not in the initial hit are doing worse and simultaneously removing control requirements.
 
I have understood you to say previously that we should not expect the president to be a leader, I disagree but have seen that in any case he is incapable of performing that function.
 
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				Either tell me why I am a liar or this will show why I think you are a scum bag and the most vile person here.   
 
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				I do not have time to go thorough EVERY post and every thread as I work my ass off with the job that PAYS the bills. 
 
Dangles: ZERO use of the ANY variation of tard unless it is specific to the technical aspect of advance of something mechanical, like timing. This includes the substitution of "technical aspect of advance of something mechanical, like timing" into a political or mental sense. No circumventing. Got it? 
 
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				So why am I an expert on lying? 
 
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 Remember the thread where you lied about Trump?..
 
But you said you didn’t lie
 
But I proved you wrong 
 
And you still wouldn’t admit it regardless
 
Then you splained that your lie was just an error on your part so it didn’t count as a lie
 
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				Remember the thread where you lied about Trump?.. 
 
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 Haven't we discussed this 2 times before - I said Trump said the virus would magically disappear.  He said mysteriously.  I told you previously it isn't a big deal.
 
And for that you call me a liar.  It just shows what type of person you are.  See my post above about what type of person I think you are.
 
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Obviously you have an opinion about what exactly compromises a lie. 
This makes you an expert 
No insult, just a compliment! 
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				It wouldn’t be a big deal if you came clean,my thin amigo. 
 
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				Come clean with what?  I said it was a mistake 2 times before.   
 
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				He jokes a lot.  He even said that his remark in question was semi-tongue in cheek.  And he has also said that he did not actually tell his staff to slow the testing.  So, obviously, his "I never kid," if it referred to his rally remark, was that there was a serious point being made with his semi-tongue in cheek schtick about asking his staff to slow the testing. 
 
The point being made is that media would not give him what he considered proper credit for the massive testing his administration was doing--and his sarcasm (or semi-tongue in cheek) was a way of sarcastically pointing out that we were doing exactly what he would not get credit for. 
 
So in the brief interview where he said he never kids, he took the rare opportunity to use the media, rather than just tweets, to pound on the fact that we are doing a lot of testing--which is exactly what he did by brushing aside the question about his remark and jumping directly and heavily into telling the people about the success that he would not otherwise get credit for in the media that wanted to waste time on an obvious "joke."  He would never kid about something that serious and important, but would use sarcasm to illustrate what was not being reported.  
 
It would be incredulous to believe he would seriously broadcast to the nation that he had asked his staff to slow down the testing.  That would easily be proved to be true if it were true.  He knew that it would easily be proved not to be true.  It was obviously some kind of attempt to humorously point out to his rally crowd, and to those watching on some form of internet media or traditional media, how much testing we were really doing in spite of the narrative that he lacked on testing--so much testing that he had to ask his staff to slow it down, chuckle, chuckle 
			
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		 Well the US is back to the peak April levels, but hey let’s stop funding for pop up testing, let’s suggest if we didn’t test these numbers wouldn’t look that bad.  Get the rally’s going sans masks, let evolution take its natural course, get those states open we need to crank up the economy.  Those that we sacrifice due to our collective stupidity will have died for a good cause.   
 
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				Well the US is back to the peak April levels, but hey let’s stop funding for pop up testing, let’s suggest if we didn’t test these numbers wouldn’t look that bad.  Get the rally’s going sans masks, let evolution take its natural course, get those states open we need to crank up the economy.  Those that we sacrifice due to our collective stupidity will have died for a good cause.  
  
			
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 From The Hill:
 
The Trump administration is not abandoning federally funded coronavirus testing sites, the administration's COVID-19 testing "czar" said Wednesday.
 
Adm. Brett Giroir, the assistant secretary for the Department of Health and Human Services, said that even though the government will stop directly funding 13 community-based coronavirus testing sites, the amount of testing will not decrease, and the sites should not lose resources.
 
"We are not withdrawing support," Giroir said. "We are providing federal support in a different way."
 
Giroir said the sites, which are located in Texas, Illinois, New Jersey, Colorado and Pennsylvania, will be supported by the $11 billion Congress allocated for testing and contact tracing, just like hundreds of other sites across the country.
 
"We have worked carefully to make sure that [the 13 sites] could sunset without losing any services to any people," Giroir said.
 
Giroir said those 13 sites will remain open and will be operated by the states. He said governors were aware of the plan to transition to state control, which had been in place since April . . .
 
Giroir said there has never been an intention to decrease testing, and governors know that.
 
"Let me say definitively that we are moving to increase testing. Both the number, the quantity and the targeting on social vulnerability, and we will continue to do that" Giroir said.
 
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) established 41 community-based testing sites in coronavirus hot spots across the country in March, but the program has evolved since those initial sites opened, and now only 13 are remaining.
 
Those sites are now outdated, Giroir said. They were narrowly focused and operated when supplies were much more limited.
 
Giroir said there are now more than 600 testing sites in 48 states, operating under a federal program that will reimburse retail pharmacies for providing tests.  
		
		
		
		
		
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