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08-27-2019, 07:00 PM
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08-27-2019, 09:30 PM
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A source close to Deutsche Bank says Trump’s tax returns show he pays very little income tax and, more importantly, that his loans have Russian co-signers.
If true, that explains every kind word Trump has ever said about Russia and Putin.
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08-27-2019, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
A source close to Deutsche Bank says Trump’s tax returns show he pays very little income tax and, more importantly, that his loans have Russian co-signers.
If true, that explains every kind word Trump has ever said about Russia and Putin.
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Does it explain the unkind things Trump has ever done or said to Russia?
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Trump criticized Russia for the nerve gas poisoning of the former Russian intelligence agent. He expelled 60 Russian diplomats and closed the consulate in Seattle.
Trumps military killed 300 Russian troops in Syria. Obama wouldn’t cross his red line in the sand in Syria for fear of antagonizing Russia.
Trump provided lethal weapons to Ukraine. When Ukraine asked Obama for weapons after Russia invaded, he sent food.
Trump placed some sanctions on Russia for the election interference. |
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08-29-2019, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
A source close to Deutsche Bank says Trump’s tax returns show he pays very little income tax and, more importantly, that his loans have Russian co-signers.
If true, that explains every kind word Trump has ever said about Russia and Putin.
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Big "If"
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08-29-2019, 05:48 AM
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pete is a fake news purveyor |
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08-29-2019, 06:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
A source close to Deutsche Bank says Trump’s tax returns show he pays very little income tax and, more importantly, that his loans have Russian co-signers.
If true, that explains every kind word Trump has ever said about Russia and Putin.
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I see you believe everything lawrence o’donnell says....after getting panned by everyone for running with an unverified story, o’donnell went on the air last night and retracted that story, saying he never should have run with it.
pete, whet else are they lying about? it’s a fair question. has o’donnell lost any credibility in your view?
they are completely detanged.
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08-28-2019, 06:41 AM
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Ah, it’s Obama’s fault.
Did he also make him go to the oligarchs for funding?
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08-28-2019, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Ah, it’s Obama’s fault.
Did he also make him go to the oligarchs for funding?
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Wasn't trying to bring in the notion of "fault." Since you did, was it Obama's "fault" that he was nicer to the Russians in those cases than Trump was?
I was asking if the alleged oligarchs thing was also the reason for Trump doing unkind things to the Russians. As usual, you deflect. |
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08-28-2019, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Does it explain the unkind things Trump has ever done or said to Russia?
e.g.:
Trump criticized Russia for the nerve gas poisoning of the former Russian intelligence agent. He expelled 60 Russian diplomats and closed the consulate in Seattle.
The diplomats he expelled have been replaced by others, it was not a force reduction, so it sounds good but little effect. Typical Trump
Trumps military killed 300 Russian troops in Syria. Obama wouldn’t cross his red line in the sand in Syria for fear of antagonizing Russia.
Quite Trumpy of you to add 50% to the number of Mercenaries killed by US in Syria, and since when are people not expendable to Putin?
Trump provided lethal weapons to Ukraine. When Ukraine asked Obama for weapons after Russia invaded, he sent food.
He sent nonlethal support, Ukraine is not a NATO member and was invaded because they were going to sign a association agreement with the EU and Russia was concerned that after that they would face more than sanctions if they annexed Crimea. Trump is willing to think of that as water over the dam. Our allies are not.
Trump placed some sanctions on Russia for the election interference.
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Some is the operative word, the sanctions Trump imposed have been largely ineffective, Russian GDP as not been decreased, Energy earnings have increased and the people in positions of power are not suffering. Things that are much more effective could be done, but the WH and Moscow Mitch stand in the way.
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Wasn't trying to bring in the notion of "fault." Since you did, was it Obama's "fault" that he was nicer to the Russians in those cases than Trump was?
I was asking if the alleged oligarchs thing was also the reason for Trump doing unkind things to the Russians. As usual, you deflect.
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Trump does the "unkind things" he is told to do by Putin.
Follow the money, and you will find who is Trump's true controller.
Trump's taxes, the Deutsche Banks documents and other business records will tell the tale.
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08-28-2019, 10:22 AM
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meltdown mode for the lefties...this is fun  |
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08-28-2019, 11:30 AM
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meltdown mode for the lefties...this is fun |
Trump is melting down......Fox has realized he's a losing proposition and wants to get rid of it's state news reputation.
Just watched @FoxNews heavily promoting the Democrats through their DNC Communications Director, spewing out whatever she wanted with zero pushback by anchor, @SandraSmithFox. Terrible considering that Fox couldn’t even land a debate, the Dems give them NOTHING! @CNN& @MSNBC....
....are all in for the Open Border Socialists (or beyond). Fox hires“give Hillary the questions” @donnabrazile, Juan Williams and low ratings Shep Smith. HOPELESS & CLUELESS! They should go all the way LEFT and I will still find a way to Win - That’s what I do, Win. Too Bad!....
....I don’t want to Win for myself, I only want to Win for the people. The New @FoxNews is letting millions of GREAT people down! We have to start looking for a new News Outlet. Fox isn’t working for us anymore! |
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08-28-2019, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
meltdown mode for the lefties...this is fun |
Somewhere Pete F. has a friend,and whoever that man is he is very concerned with Pete’s behavior.
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08-28-2019, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
The diplomats he expelled have been replaced by others, it was not a force reduction, so it sounds good but little effect. Typical Trump
But it was not a nice thing.
Quite Trumpy of you to add 50% to the number of Mercenaries killed by US in Syria, and since when are people not expendable to Putin?
But it was not a nice thing.
He sent nonlethal support, Ukraine is not a NATO member and was invaded because they were going to sign a association agreement with the EU and Russia was concerned that after that they would face more than sanctions if they annexed Crimea. Trump is willing to think of that as water over the dam. Our allies are not.
But it was not a nice thing.
Some is the operative word, the sanctions Trump imposed have been largely ineffective, Russian GDP as not been decreased, Energy earnings have increased and the people in positions of power are not suffering. Things that are much more effective could be done, but the WH and Moscow Mitch stand in the way.
But it was not a nice thing.
Trump does the "unkind things" he is told to do by Putin.
Follow the money, and you will find who is Trump's true controller.
Trump's taxes, the Deutsche Banks documents and other business records will tell the tale.
Was Trump's calling of others treasonous, projection?
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Putin told him to do those not nice things? Wow, this conspiracy of yours is getting real deep. |
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08-28-2019, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Putin told him to do those not nice things? Wow, this conspiracy of yours is getting real deep.
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Don’t worry about me because in these troubled times, I like to put my hand over the kidney in my heart, stare at the moon of Mars contemplating how the wheel is older than the wall, the great things Frederick Douglass is doing & just being thankful I have ID to buy cereal & I don’t have windmill cancer.
Just keep believing in the Stable Genius, he will save you.
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08-28-2019, 08:28 AM
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I am just happy to see something done about the opioid crisis. F big pharma and a president who helped spur it on.
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08-28-2019, 08:27 PM
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He will save the dummies too so don’t despair. Free thinkers prevail!
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08-29-2019, 04:54 AM
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The Trump administration is slow-walking $250 million in military assistance to Ukraine, annoying lawmakers and advocates who argue the funding is critical to keeping Russia at bay.
President Donald Trump asked his national security team to review the funding program, known as the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, in order to ensure the money is being used in the best interest of the United States, a senior administration official told POLITICO on Wednesday.
But the delays come amid questions over Trump’s approach to Russia, after a weekend in which the president repeatedly seemed to downplay Moscow’s military intervention in Ukraine and pushed for Russia to be reinstated into the Group of Seven, an annual gathering of the world’s largest advanced economies. The review is also occurring amid a broader internal debate over whether to try and halt or cut billions of dollars in foreign aid.
United States military aid to Ukraine has long been seen as a litmus test for how strongly the American government is pushing back against Moscow.
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08-29-2019, 05:07 AM
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Trump is withholding vital military aid to Ukraine, while his personal lawyer seeks help from the Ukraine government to investigate his political opponent.
It doesn’t take a stable genius to see the magnitude of this conflict.
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08-29-2019, 06:26 AM
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Just waiting for discovery in the lawsuit The Citrus Caligula threatened him with.
All Trump has to do is show the things he won’t disclose and that puts all the rumors to rest.
Kinda like a birth certificate.
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08-29-2019, 08:06 AM
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pete, here’s the difference between us. i can say without reservation, that trump was an azz for pushing the birther story. you, on the other hand, can’t admit o’donnell is an anti trump hack. enjoy!
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08-29-2019, 09:42 AM
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pete, here’s the difference between us. i can say without reservation, that trump was an azz for pushing the birther story. you, on the other hand, can’t admit o’donnell is an anti trump hack. enjoy!
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08-29-2019, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
pete, here’s the difference between us. i can say without reservation, that trump was an azz for pushing the birther story. you, on the other hand, can’t admit o’donnell is an anti trump hack. enjoy!
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Here is the Russian State TV reaction to the Anti American Russian tool at work.
“Russian efforts either to recruit somebody as an asset or effectively coerce them into becoming an asset historically typically rely on compromise of either a financial nature or a sexual nature,” said David Kris, a former assistant attorney general in charge of the Justice Department’s National Security Division. “Or some other nature by which they can gain leverage. Either induce somebody voluntarily to cooperate or blackmail them.” Kris added that “there is long history of that kind of activity, including in the context of presidential elections,” going back to Soviet efforts to offer money to Hubert Humphrey in the 1968 election.
Great Propaganda Job by the Citrus Caligula, payment for his funding?
He's playing you for a fool, Enjoy!
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08-29-2019, 03:36 PM
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so according to pete, anyone who says anything complimentary about russia, must be suspected of being a russian mole. you say this, even after o’donnell retracted his story.
when romney said russia was a threat and obama mocked him for it, were you equally suspicious that obama was a russian agent?
when o’donnell says trump got loans thanks to russia, you gleefully posted it, saying trump was influenced by russia.
o’donnell retracted his story, said he never should have run with it. that doesn’t deter you one bit.
welcome to tds.
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08-30-2019, 04:15 PM
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when o’donnell says trump got loans thanks to russia, you gleefully posted it, saying trump was influenced by russia.
o’donnell retracted his story, said he never should have run with it. that doesn’t deter you one bit.
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O'donnell didn't retract the story because it wasn't true, he retracted it because he didn't adhere to journalistic standards and Trump was threatening to sue NBC.
The idea that Russia has kept the Trump org afloat is no crazy secret, even Jr has admitted as much. |
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08-30-2019, 04:33 PM
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O'donnell didn't retract the story because it wasn't true, he retracted it because he didn't adhere to journalistic standards
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this is very amusing |
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09-04-2019, 07:30 AM
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Trump Administration Diverts $3.6 Billion From Military Projects To Border Wall.
More fake news I guess .. 1st fema now the Military.. when's Mexico's turn
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09-04-2019, 07:47 AM
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Trump Administration Diverts $3.6 Billion From Military Projects To Border Wall.
More fake news I guess .. 1st fema now the Military.. when's Mexico's turn
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Good news, not fake news. |
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09-04-2019, 09:29 AM
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Good news, not fake news.
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would be better if mexico was paying for it as he promised. but better we pay for it, than not to have it.
in montgomery county maryland ( a sanctuary county), seven illegals have been arrested for rape in a little over a month. tell the victims that we don’t need a secure border.
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09-04-2019, 12:14 PM
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would be better if mexico was paying for it as he promised. but better we pay for it, than not to have it.
in montgomery county maryland ( a sanctuary county), seven illegals have been arrested for rape in a little over a month. tell the victims that we don’t need a secure border.
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Illegals rapeing other illegals.. but americans raping each other is what in your eyes??.. i know a wall will reduce rapes .. any other fantasies that the wall will fix for you.. i find it funny how wall supporters are clueless about the size of or borders..as if its like fencing in their yard
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09-04-2019, 12:39 PM
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Illegals rapeing other illegals.. but americans raping each other is what in your eyes??.. i know a wall will reduce rapes .. any other fantasies that the wall will fix for you.. i find it funny how wall supporters are clueless about the size of or borders..as if its like fencing in their yard
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Wayne, funny that you think illegal entry into this country is a fantasy. Must be Trumps fault.
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