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08-28-2019, 06:41 AM
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Ah, it’s Obama’s fault.
Did he also make him go to the oligarchs for funding?
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08-28-2019, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Ah, it’s Obama’s fault.
Did he also make him go to the oligarchs for funding?
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Wasn't trying to bring in the notion of "fault." Since you did, was it Obama's "fault" that he was nicer to the Russians in those cases than Trump was?
I was asking if the alleged oligarchs thing was also the reason for Trump doing unkind things to the Russians. As usual, you deflect. |
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08-28-2019, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Does it explain the unkind things Trump has ever done or said to Russia?
e.g.:
Trump criticized Russia for the nerve gas poisoning of the former Russian intelligence agent. He expelled 60 Russian diplomats and closed the consulate in Seattle.
The diplomats he expelled have been replaced by others, it was not a force reduction, so it sounds good but little effect. Typical Trump
Trumps military killed 300 Russian troops in Syria. Obama wouldn’t cross his red line in the sand in Syria for fear of antagonizing Russia.
Quite Trumpy of you to add 50% to the number of Mercenaries killed by US in Syria, and since when are people not expendable to Putin?
Trump provided lethal weapons to Ukraine. When Ukraine asked Obama for weapons after Russia invaded, he sent food.
He sent nonlethal support, Ukraine is not a NATO member and was invaded because they were going to sign a association agreement with the EU and Russia was concerned that after that they would face more than sanctions if they annexed Crimea. Trump is willing to think of that as water over the dam. Our allies are not.
Trump placed some sanctions on Russia for the election interference.
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Some is the operative word, the sanctions Trump imposed have been largely ineffective, Russian GDP as not been decreased, Energy earnings have increased and the people in positions of power are not suffering. Things that are much more effective could be done, but the WH and Moscow Mitch stand in the way.
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Wasn't trying to bring in the notion of "fault." Since you did, was it Obama's "fault" that he was nicer to the Russians in those cases than Trump was?
I was asking if the alleged oligarchs thing was also the reason for Trump doing unkind things to the Russians. As usual, you deflect.
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Trump does the "unkind things" he is told to do by Putin.
Follow the money, and you will find who is Trump's true controller.
Trump's taxes, the Deutsche Banks documents and other business records will tell the tale.
Was Trump's calling of others treasonous, projection? |
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08-28-2019, 10:22 AM
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meltdown mode for the lefties...this is fun  |
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08-28-2019, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
meltdown mode for the lefties...this is fun |
Trump is melting down......Fox has realized he's a losing proposition and wants to get rid of it's state news reputation.
Just watched @FoxNews heavily promoting the Democrats through their DNC Communications Director, spewing out whatever she wanted with zero pushback by anchor, @SandraSmithFox. Terrible considering that Fox couldn’t even land a debate, the Dems give them NOTHING! @CNN& @MSNBC....
....are all in for the Open Border Socialists (or beyond). Fox hires“give Hillary the questions” @donnabrazile, Juan Williams and low ratings Shep Smith. HOPELESS & CLUELESS! They should go all the way LEFT and I will still find a way to Win - That’s what I do, Win. Too Bad!....
....I don’t want to Win for myself, I only want to Win for the people. The New @FoxNews is letting millions of GREAT people down! We have to start looking for a new News Outlet. Fox isn’t working for us anymore! |
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08-28-2019, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
meltdown mode for the lefties...this is fun |
Somewhere Pete F. has a friend,and whoever that man is he is very concerned with Pete’s behavior.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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08-28-2019, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
The diplomats he expelled have been replaced by others, it was not a force reduction, so it sounds good but little effect. Typical Trump
But it was not a nice thing.
Quite Trumpy of you to add 50% to the number of Mercenaries killed by US in Syria, and since when are people not expendable to Putin?
But it was not a nice thing.
He sent nonlethal support, Ukraine is not a NATO member and was invaded because they were going to sign a association agreement with the EU and Russia was concerned that after that they would face more than sanctions if they annexed Crimea. Trump is willing to think of that as water over the dam. Our allies are not.
But it was not a nice thing.
Some is the operative word, the sanctions Trump imposed have been largely ineffective, Russian GDP as not been decreased, Energy earnings have increased and the people in positions of power are not suffering. Things that are much more effective could be done, but the WH and Moscow Mitch stand in the way.
But it was not a nice thing.
Trump does the "unkind things" he is told to do by Putin.
Follow the money, and you will find who is Trump's true controller.
Trump's taxes, the Deutsche Banks documents and other business records will tell the tale.
Was Trump's calling of others treasonous, projection?
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Putin told him to do those not nice things? Wow, this conspiracy of yours is getting real deep. |
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08-28-2019, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Putin told him to do those not nice things? Wow, this conspiracy of yours is getting real deep.
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Don’t worry about me because in these troubled times, I like to put my hand over the kidney in my heart, stare at the moon of Mars contemplating how the wheel is older than the wall, the great things Frederick Douglass is doing & just being thankful I have ID to buy cereal & I don’t have windmill cancer.
Just keep believing in the Stable Genius, he will save you.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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08-28-2019, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Don’t worry about me because in these troubled times, I like to put my hand over the kidney in my heart, stare at the moon of Mars contemplating how the wheel is older than the wall, the great things Frederick Douglass is doing & just being thankful I have ID to buy cereal & I don’t have windmill cancer.
Just keep believing in the Stable Genius, he will save you.
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Yeah, hang on to that ID . . . you might need it when the ambulance comes with a straight jacket to pick you up. |
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