Why do liberal universities honor murderers?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

I think that has to be evaluated in the context of the tension during the Vietnam era where frustrations over inaction or complicity with many issues (like the War and racial inequality) reached a boiling point. Some looked to more violent means to make a statement as peaceful methods didn't appear to be working. That's not to say it was right, but to ignore the societal climate these events were surrounded by would be irresponsible.


-spence

very little in their stated goals and purposes had anything to do with Vietnam...they used it as a recruiting tool....took advantage of a crisis... and their greatest interest in the war was that they shared idealogical and political orientation with our enemies....


The thesis of Weatherman theory, as expounded in its founding document, You Don't Need a Weatherman to Know Which Way the Wind Blows, was that "the main struggle going on in the world today is between U.S. imperialism and the national liberation struggles against it",[23] based on Lenin's theory of imperialism, first expounded in 1916 in Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism. In Weatherman theory "oppressed peoples" are the creators of the wealth of empire, "and it is to them that it belongs." "The goal of revolutionary struggle must be the control and use of this wealth in the interest of the oppressed peoples of the world." "The goal is the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism"[24]

The Weatherman group had long held that militancy was becoming more important than nonviolent forms of anti-war action, and that university-campus-based demonstrations needed to be punctuated with more dramatic actions, which had the potential to interfere with the US military and internal security apparatus. The belief was that these types of urban guerrilla actions would act as a catalyst for the coming revolution. Many international events indeed seemed to support the Weathermen’s overall assertion that worldwide revolution was imminent

this is impressive

List of Weatherman actions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[scottw]

hey Jim...it it becoming clearer now?.....I think you have the answer to your intital question both in theory and in practice at this point....there's also a nice little intersection to the two topics that diverged regarding ideaology and political lables that should be helpful

[Jim in CT]

During one of the president's speeches about the violence in Boston, he said about the terrorists...

"“Why did young men who grew up and studied here, as part of our communities and our country, resort to such violence?”

Maybe they were inspired by Professor Bowdin at Columbia. Maybe they heard Rev Wright speak somewhere. Maybe they attended a symposium where Bill Ayers gave a lecture.

The President is not suffering from a shortage of chutzpah.

If Obama wants people who study here to be disenfrachised with violence...then perhaps, just perhaps, we should reconsider having homicidal maniacs (as long as they are liberal homicidal maniacs) teaching our kids...

But hey, that's just me...

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

very little in their stated goals and purposes had anything to do with Vietnam...they used it as a recruiting tool....took advantage of a crisis... and their greatest interest in the war was that they shared idealogical and political orientation with our enemies....

The war was the engine behind the radicalization. This wasn't a bunch of communists looking for a cause, their behavior was a by-product.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

The war was the engine behind the radicalization. This wasn't a bunch of communists looking for a cause, their behavior was a by-product.

-spence

the were self-described communist revolutionaries....Ayers to this day refers to himself as a radical leftist communist....they were infact communists looking for a revolution and were in favor of violence and stated this on many occasions....the anti-war crowd was not enamoured with them....

you are digging a very deep hole

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

the were self-described communist revolutionaries....Ayers to this day refers to himself as a radical leftist communist....they were infact communists looking for a revolution and were in favor of violence and stated this on many occasions....the anti-war crowd was not enamoured with them....

you are digging a very deep hole

Seriously, you're making a mockery of yourself.

When the war started Ayers was in a prep school. I'll bet he was a real hard core commie back then...He was motivated by the war and racism in college. Hell, he's written at length about his beliefs.

Please try and pay attention to the TIMELINE OF EVENTS. I know context doesn't matter to you but in this case it does have some importance.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Seriously, you're making a mockery of yourself.



-spence

now THAT is very funny!!!!

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

When the war started Ayers was in a prep school. I'll bet he was a real hard core commie back then...He was motivated by the war and racism in college. Hell, he's written at length about his beliefs.

-spence

correct...about the same age as suspect number 2....not sure that 2is a harcore islamist but there seem to be indications and it appears as though he's written about it....he's motivated by a war or jihad and probably religious intolerance toward Islam(racism)... I'm not sure that I'd trust anything that he writes about it in the future particualrly if he's trying to somehow redeem his image and re-enter "mainstream" society

Spence, most of these people grew up in families with long histories of radical leftism and communism...did you read Boudin's bio?
communist revolution was a natural progression for them, ...they embraced it...Ayers wrote a lot about that too......the war was just another reason to hate America just as every incident today is construed as another reason for a protest abroad in certain sectors........much of what he has written is deceptive and dishonest after the fact rehabilitation vomit which you seem to embrace, you seem to pick and choose through the rubble of their history anything that exhonerates while ignoring facts......other members of his clan have discounted his various claims....tough to decide which terrorist to believe....

I'm starting to wonder exactly when you were radicalized......