Who do you think the new pope should be?

[PaulS]

So says the guy who complains about more things on this forum than anyone else and has single handedly changed the tone of the whole forum.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So says the guy who complains about more things on this forum than anyone else and has single handedly changed the tone of the whole forum.

Paul, as demonstrated here, I can directly answer fair, tough challenges (like posted by Sea Dangles) when my side makes mistakes. Sorry if you can't handle that...

[Sea Dangles]

I like that Jim,when your faith is tested you answer the tough questions.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I like that Jim,when your faith is tested you answer the tough questions.

Your point about the war was tough, probing and challenging. It was also perfectly fair and relevent to whether or not he's fit to lead my church.

There is a difference between sincerely supporting the dictators, and merely saying you support them because you have a figurative gun to your head, and then plotting against them in private.

It's more heroic, in some ways, to denounce the dictators. But if denouncing them means torture and execution, I can see where someone would be intimidated. I wouldn't say such a person can never be deemed fit to lead a church.

I hope his actions were considered when the cardinals voted. I wouldn't say a guy is unfit to be pope, because he was too scared to take a stance that would lead to certain death (this is precisely why I don't fault George Soros for being a Nazi collaberator).

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I like that Jim,when your faith is tested you answer the tough questions.

I don't know if Bergoglio's faith was tested by the "dirty wars." I would assume his faith is in Christ's message with its path to God, not in man and the ways of godless men. I don't recall in my Bible readings (long enough ago that I may have forgotten some) that Christ was concerned with the often murderous machinations of the Roman empire, nor with scolding Roman governors, but rather with preaching and ministering to the poor, and with scolding those who had false faith. His path to salvation was, I think, a personal faith in a God who demands that you cast off petty material concerns and seek spiritual salvation even if you must sacrifice your corporeal being. If he had been asked to abandon his faith or be crucified, that, I think, would have been a test of his faith.

[Sea Dangles]

I was referring to Jims faith,not the Popes.

[Goose]

Well said 'detbuch'

As christians we don't need to know the politics of the catholic faith. We can point at every religious leader and find his faults. All men are weak that's why we all need to know God.
When modern men first discovered tribes in the middle of the jungle those tribes where worshiping God..same thing was going on way before the bible was written. If your excuse for not seeking spirituality is because you haven't yet found the perfect leader, then you have trust issues, the good news is...when your in a fox hole and the end is near, you will.