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I know there are some studies that make that statement, but when one examines them, you see all manner of massaging and imprecise data being cobbled together.
To me, "more guns = more gun crimes" is a very simple premise that demands a simple proof. Once you read those studies and find you need to consider subjective controls and regression coefficient or internalizing externality, you have moved past being able to present that simple premise to us regular clods at face value.
When one actually examines the numbers we find "more guns = more gun crimes" really can't be argued at all, even with all the econometric funny business.
In 1986 13,029 people out of a population of 240,133,048 were killed with a gun.
In 2006 12,791 people out of a population of 298,754,819 were killed with a gun.
20 years + 60,000,000 people + 80,000,000 guns = FEWER HOMICIDES?
How can that be?
Those nations that have strict gun control (usually Britain without Ireland, wink, wink is cited) have had it for centuries and it was enacted and enforced for political reasons not crime control.
That a subservient, obedient, well mannered population doesn't commit much murder isn't so noteworthy. The laws that have been more recently enacted in response to crime have not been all that effective. Trying to control criminals with an over representation of recent immigrant Eastern European and Jamaicans, who have no allegiance to the British traditions and live in separate criminal syndicate enclaves from the British people, is not an easy task no matter how strict the laws are.
I am very interested in this never before known attribute of AR-15 rifles the Evil Queen herself was talking about today.
"The more you have these weapons, these military style weapons, that with a single slide stock on the AR-15 can be made fully automatic, the minute you have that, in like the Sandy Hook killer's hands, you have a devastating weapon."
Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA)
Sunday, January 27, 2013
CNN's "State of the Union with Candy Crowley", @ 6:20 mark (until it is scrubbed)
Between the Evil Queen's full auto stock slide and McCarthy's "stock thing that goes up" barrel shroud, I think these two could go on the road, doing an Abbott and Costello act about these amazing fantasmagorical Chitty Chitty Bang Bang AR-15's.
Idiots, absolute idiots taking charge over our rights . . .
Thats awesome, I like how he asks her flat out what a barrel shroud is, idiots....
While I am not for any more laws with regards to our 2nd ammendment rights, there is a stock that can turn an AR into an almost full auto.
Vic
curious that this is "ATF Approved"...I thought they were all caught up in "curbing gun violence"...or maybe that's just since Sandy Hook
I was curious exactly when this was "approved" and to know more about it's approval...the Wiki link regarding "bump fire"...provides a reference and a link to the ATF approval letter but the link doesn't work....this is apparently a 2011 product so I guess we can't blame it on Bush or the Bush ATF ....and ATF has approved but then reversed decision on previous such devices "Akins Accelerator "
The inaccuracy, difficulty, and ammunition costs render the practice uncommon.
curious that this is "ATF Approved"...I thought they were all caught up in "curbing gun violence"...or maybe that's just since Sandy Hook
My understanding is that they fall into a grey area when it comes to the ATF definition of automatic weapon. Technically, the gun still functions within their definition - only one bullet ejected from the barrel per pull of the trigger.
From what I remember, the ATF has tried to leverage "physical effort" in order to make a ruling against the stocks. Interestingly, many current models of the stock ship with a copy of the ATF letter stating the aftermarket stock has been evaluated by the ATF and is currently legal.