Obama will be number 1

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by striperman36

Hoover, was replaced by FDR in 32.

How fitting that the actions taken by FDR during that time of highest unemployment now has us about to drown in debt.

The New Deal was good for that generation and the generation after it. Today, the New Deal was the snowflake that started the avalanche that will completely smother my generation and that of my children's children in crippling debt if we continue down this path.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

The New Deal was good for that generation and the generation after it. Today, the New Deal was the snowflake that started the avalanche that will completely smother my generation and that of my children's children in crippling debt if we continue down this path.

There's also the flip side that the New Deal helped usher in the fastest economic and societal growth the planet has ever seen.

I just find it amazing that Obama hate has surpassed faith in America.

-spence

[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by spence

There's also the flip side that the New Deal helped usher in the fastest economic and societal growth the planet has ever seen.

I just find it amazing that Obama hate has surpassed faith in America.

-spence

Back then, people WANTED to work for pay, not so much these days.........


There is your hate Spence !
Growing up my grandfather preached to me of how back then how embarrassed people were if they needed help or a hand out.
Today a handout is EXPECTED !

[spence]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Back then, people WANTED to work for pay, not so much these days.........


There is your hate Spence !
Growing up my grandfather preached to me of how back then how embarrassed people were if they needed help or a hand out.
Today a handout is EXPECTED !

Today we also pay into systems like TDI that are there if we need them. I wouldn't have any problem taking unemployment benefits if I needed them.

As is indicated in the chart posted, the increase in food stamp use under Obama is primarily a reflection of a massive recession and job market that's shifting into a different mode. Obama did expand benefits but I believe that's going to expire soon.

Interestingly though, Food Stamp use under Bush was also climbing dramatically faster than previous administrations, even as Bush was cutting taxes to record lows.

Moody's did an interesting study on Food Stamp's as economic stimulus.

Food stamps offer best stimulus - study - Jan. 29, 2008

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

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Moody's did an interesting study on Food Stamp's as economic stimulus.

Food stamps offer best stimulus - study - Jan. 29, 2008

-spence

right, government borrowing money to provide foodstamps, unemployment benefits that never end and welfare in general are great ways to stimulate a stagnent economy.....we should just borrow more and put everyone on the dole ...wait...that appears to be what we ARE doing...

hey, if you follow that article to the end there are some links listed and highlighted...the first is "5 Signs of Dimensia"...I think they're all contained in that article

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

right, government borrowing money to provide foodstamps, unemployment benefits that never end and welfare are great ways to stimulate a stagnent economy.....we should just borrow more and put everyone on the dole ...wait...that appears to be what we ARE doing...

Typical irrational response.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Typical irrational response.

-spence

irrational???

you just posted "Food stamps offer best stimulus"

too funny

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by spence

There's also the flip side that the New Deal helped usher in the fastest economic and societal growth the planet has ever seen.

That was also a time in society when most adults were ashamed if they couldn't fully support their family, men wanted to work, families were willing to do what was necessary to support their country and American Patriotism/Nationalism wasn't stigmatized.

Being a Career Welfare Recipient wasn't a job description back then.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

That was also a time in society when most adults were ashamed if they couldn't fully support their family, men wanted to work, families were willing to do what was necessary to support their country and American Patriotism/Nationalism wasn't stigmatized.

Being a Career Welfare Recipient wasn't a job description back then.

IMHO, many people today are afraid of hard work and don't know what it is.
One of the best gifts you can give your kids is a summer job working on a
farm,for a landscaper or in constuction when they're young.
Problem is there is prolly some kind of Govt regulation, in the over 80,0000
on the books, to prevent it.

[Fly Rod]

do not know about a farm...my grand kids will be working part when they turn 14...they do not have to ...there college is paid for....they do not know that ...but they will work at a Mac Donalds or a Burger king...they will never ever be a professional athlete making a lot of money....they R very fortunate and they will realise what work is and could lead to

[Piscator]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

How fitting that the actions taken by FDR during that time of highest unemployment now has us about to drown in debt.

The New Deal was good for that generation and the generation after it. Today, the New Deal was the snowflake that started the avalanche that will completely smother my generation and that of my children's children in crippling debt if we continue down this path.

Back then, people WANTED to work for pay, not so much these days.........