Lay Offs

[Raider Ronnie]

Scott indicated Kerry will be getting the nod for Hilary's old job since her being thrown under the bus.
Scott will be running for his seat.

Originally Posted by scottw

shhhhh...noone is getting laid off.....that's a myth started by Hannity and Limbaugh the porn merchant.....

Brown has lot's of free time, he should have picked up both his and Warren's signs after losing to that ___....oooops...sorry...that's Senator ___ Liawatha....wait...that's all wrong and it will no doubt inflame Paul.....Senator Kennedy in drag? funny...does she drinK???....oh no, we've already got another new Kennedy who claims he understands the middle class better than the guy that he ran against who served(s) in the Marines and has actually spent some time in the middle class.....so confusing

"my peepaw had high cheekbones like all of the indians do" or whatever she said... makes me laugh everytime I hear the cut

I'd be really happy if the Raiders won a game or two more by the end of the season


I know a lot of people at all levels of the restaurant industry and the all work many more than 40 hours a week, actually that's true for most people that I know...

part time is the new full time under Obama...they did this in France to increase employment%..limited the number of hours that you could work, the rationalization was that if you limit the number of hours for a workers by law the businesses would have to hire more workers to fill those hours...BRILLIANT@!@!!

The 35-hour working week is a measure adopted first in France, in February 2000, under Prime Minister Lionel Jospin's Plural Left government; it was pushed by Minister of Labour Martine Aubry. The previous legal duration of the working week was 39 hours, which had been established by François Mitterrand, also a member of the Socialist Party. The 35-hour working week was already in the Socialist Party's 1981 electoral program, titled 110 Propositions for France.

Rationale: The main stated objectives of the law were twofold:

To reduce unemployment and yield a better division of labor, in a context where some people work long hours while some others are unemployed. A 10.2% decrease in the hours extracted from each worker would, theoretically, require firms to hire correspondingly more workers, a remedy for unemployment.

French unemployment hits 13-year high


PARIS | Thu Sep 6, 2012 3:15am EDT

PARIS (Reuters) - France's unemployment rate rose to its highest level in 13 years in the second quarter, official data showed on Thursday, in a setback to the Socialist government, which was elected on a pledge to bring down the jobless rate.

The rise in unemployment to 10.2 percent, measured according to the International Labour Organisation's (ILO) criteria, comes as the euro zone's second-largest economy has posted three consecutive quarters of zero growth.

Many economists predict unemployment, which stood at 10.0 percent in the first three months of the year, will continue to rise as companies seek to rebuild margins.

A number of French companies have recently announced plans to layoff workers, including retailer Carrefour (CARR.PA) and car maker Peugeot (PEUP.PA).

it's currently 10.8% and appears to be rising I'm thinking mandated 28 hours per week work weeks should provide plenty of hours for those unemployed to get employed with the freed up hours from the people that are currently hogging all of the hours and remedy the situation in no time.....

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Scott indicated Kerry will be getting the nod for Hilary's old job since her being thrown under the bus.
Scott will be running for his seat.

I have a better idea....you lost...get out....I'm so sick of these entrenched politicians( I know that his stay was brief)...but these guys get a taste and suddnely they have to go back to Washington asap, he spent a ton of other people's dough and lost, someone else's turn....beat it....RI has me completely jaundiced, the Repubs had really solid individuals running against Cicciline and Whitehouse and others, people with character and accomplishment and RI chose to send the lying weasles back to Washington....wasn't really close....so disappointing...Scott Brown will get crushed running against whoever they put up to replace Kerry, it's Mass., his win was a freak occurance.....does Kerry have any kids that can inherit the seat?

[Piscator]

Originally Posted by scottw

Scott Brown will get crushed running against whoever they put up to replace Kerry, it's Mass., his win was a freak occurance.....does Kerry have any kids that can inherit the seat?

Looking back historically, Massachusetts isn’t so liberal.
Since 1900 Massachusetts has elected 33 different Governors.
19 were Republican and 14 Democrats.
6 out of the last 10 Governors in Massachusetts have been Republican.
As for Senators, prior to Kerry and Kennedy (and it is going back a while), it was a majority of Republican Senators representing Massachusetts than Democratic.

Interesting to see that more Republican Governors have held office in MA than Democratic (here is a list)

Winthrop M. Crane January 4, 1900 – January 8, 1903 Republican
John L. Bates January 8, 1903 – January 5, 1905 Republican
William Lewis Douglas January 5, 1905 – January 4, 1906 Democratic
Curtis Guild, Jr. January 4, 1906 – January 7, 1909 Republican
Ebenezer Draper January 7, 1909 – January 5, 1911 Republican
Eugene Foss January 5, 1911 – January 8, 1914 Democratic
David I. Walsh January 8, 1914 – January 6, 1916 Democratic
Samuel W. McCall January 6, 1916 – January 2, 1919 Republican
Calvin Coolidge January 2, 1919 – January 6, 1921 Republican
Channing H. Cox January 6, 1921 – January 8, 1925 Republican
Alvan T. Fuller January 8, 1925 – January 3, 1929 Republican
Frank G. Allen January 3, 1929 – January 8, 1931 Republican
Joseph B. Ely January 8, 1931 – January 3, 1935 Democratic
James Michael Curley January 3, 1935 – January 7, 1937 Democratic
Charles F. Hurley January 7, 1937 – January 5, 1939 Democratic
Leverett Saltonstall January 5, 1939 – January 3, 1945 Republican
Maurice J. Tobin January 3, 1945 – January 2, 1947 Democratic
Robert F. Bradford January 2, 1947 – January 6, 1949 Republican
Paul A. Dever January 6, 1949 – January 8, 1953 Democratic
Christian Herter January 8, 1953 – January 3, 1957 Republican
Foster Furcolo January 3, 1957 – January 5, 1961 Democratic
John A. Volpe January 5, 1961 – January 3, 1963 Republican
Endicott Peabody January 3, 1963 – January 7, 1965 Democratic
John A. Volpe January 7, 1965 – January 22, 1969 Republican
Francis W. Sargent January 22, 1969 – January 2, 1975 Republican
Michael Dukakis January 2, 1975 – January 4, 1979 Democratic
Edward J. King January 4, 1979 – January 6, 1983 Democratic
Michael Dukakis January 6, 1983 – January 3, 1991 Democratic
William Weld January 3, 1991 – July 29, 1997 Republican
Paul Cellucci July 29, 1997 – April 10, 2001 Republican
Jane Swift April 10, 2001 – January 2, 2003 Republican
Mitt Romney January 2, 2003 – January 4, 2007 Republican
Deval Patrick January 4, 2007 – Present Democratic

[scottw]

[QUOTE=Piscator;969053]Looking back historically, Massachusetts isn’t so liberal.
Since 1900 Massachusetts has elected 33 different Governors.
19 were Republican and 14 Democrats.
6 out of the last 10 Governors in Massachusetts have been Republican.
As for Senators, prior to Kerry and Kennedy (and it is going back a while), it was a majority of Republican Senators representing Massachusetts than Democratic. QUOTE


so you're saying he's got a shot? "historically speaking"

Massachusetts

Senators

Sen. John Kerry [D]
Sen. Scott Brown [R].....eeeeeeerrrrr...Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D)

Representatives

1st District
Rep. John Olver [D]
2nd District
Rep. Richard Neal [D]
3rd District
Rep. James “Jim” McGovern [D]
4th District
Rep. Barney Frank [D]..... Some Kennedy (D)
5th District Rep.
Niki Tsongas [D]
6th District
Rep. John Tierney [D]
7th District
Rep. Edward “Ed” Markey [D]
8th District
Rep. Michael Capuano [D]
9th District
Rep. Stephen Lynch [D]
10th District
Rep. William Keating [D]

Map DataMap data ©2012 Google - Terms of UseMap DataMap

[Piscator]

[QUOTE=scottw;969059]

Originally Posted by Piscator

Looking back historically, Massachusetts isn’t so liberal.
Since 1900 Massachusetts has elected 33 different Governors.
19 were Republican and 14 Democrats.
6 out of the last 10 Governors in Massachusetts have been Republican.
As for Senators, prior to Kerry and Kennedy (and it is going back a while), it was a majority of Republican Senators representing Massachusetts than Democratic. QUOTE


so you're saying he's got a shot? "historically speaking"

Massachusetts

Senators

Sen. John Kerry [D]
Sen. Scott Brown [R].....eeeeeeerrrrr...Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D)

Representatives

1st District
Rep. John Olver [D]
2nd District
Rep. Richard Neal [D]
3rd District
Rep. James “Jim” McGovern [D]
4th District
Rep. Barney Frank [D]..... Some Kennedy (D)
5th District Rep.
Niki Tsongas [D]
6th District
Rep. John Tierney [D]
7th District
Rep. Edward “Ed” Markey [D]
8th District
Rep. Michael Capuano [D]
9th District
Rep. Stephen Lynch [D]
10th District
Rep. William Keating [D]

Map DataMap data ©2012 Google - Terms of UseMap DataMap

Yes, I'd say he has a shot. Massachusetts is a wierd place when it comes to Politics
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[scottw]

[QUOTE=Piscator;969067]

Originally Posted by scottw

Yes, I'd say he has a shot. Massachusetts is a wierd place when it comes to Politics
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recent historical trends do not bode well

[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by Piscator

Looking back historically, Massachusetts isn’t so liberal.
Since 1900 Massachusetts has elected 33 different Governors.
19 were Republican and 14 Democrats.
6 out of the last 10 Governors in Massachusetts have been Republican.
As for Senators, prior to Kerry and Kennedy (and it is going back a while), it was a majority of Republican Senators representing Massachusetts than Democratic.

Interesting to see that more Republican Governors have held office in MA than Democratic (here is a list)

Winthrop M. Crane January 4, 1900 – January 8, 1903 Republican
John L. Bates January 8, 1903 – January 5, 1905 Republican
William Lewis Douglas January 5, 1905 – January 4, 1906 Democratic
Curtis Guild, Jr. January 4, 1906 – January 7, 1909 Republican
Ebenezer Draper January 7, 1909 – January 5, 1911 Republican
Eugene Foss January 5, 1911 – January 8, 1914 Democratic
David I. Walsh January 8, 1914 – January 6, 1916 Democratic
Samuel W. McCall January 6, 1916 – January 2, 1919 Republican
Calvin Coolidge January 2, 1919 – January 6, 1921 Republican
Channing H. Cox January 6, 1921 – January 8, 1925 Republican
Alvan T. Fuller January 8, 1925 – January 3, 1929 Republican
Frank G. Allen January 3, 1929 – January 8, 1931 Republican
Joseph B. Ely January 8, 1931 – January 3, 1935 Democratic
James Michael Curley January 3, 1935 – January 7, 1937 Democratic
Charles F. Hurley January 7, 1937 – January 5, 1939 Democratic
Leverett Saltonstall January 5, 1939 – January 3, 1945 Republican
Maurice J. Tobin January 3, 1945 – January 2, 1947 Democratic
Robert F. Bradford January 2, 1947 – January 6, 1949 Republican
Paul A. Dever January 6, 1949 – January 8, 1953 Democratic
Christian Herter January 8, 1953 – January 3, 1957 Republican
Foster Furcolo January 3, 1957 – January 5, 1961 Democratic
John A. Volpe January 5, 1961 – January 3, 1963 Republican
Endicott Peabody January 3, 1963 – January 7, 1965 Democratic
John A. Volpe January 7, 1965 – January 22, 1969 Republican
Francis W. Sargent January 22, 1969 – January 2, 1975 Republican
Michael Dukakis January 2, 1975 – January 4, 1979 Democratic
Edward J. King January 4, 1979 – January 6, 1983 Democratic
Michael Dukakis January 6, 1983 – January 3, 1991 Democratic
William Weld January 3, 1991 – July 29, 1997 Republican
Paul Cellucci July 29, 1997 – April 10, 2001 Republican
Jane Swift April 10, 2001 – January 2, 2003 Republican
Mitt Romney January 2, 2003 – January 4, 2007 Republican
Deval Patrick January 4, 2007 – Present Democratic

They put Tierney back in office Who has definitely had some sort of a role in an illegal gambling ring. I don't care who you are, your wife has an additional $240,000 hanging around you know about it.

Then there is the woman from Athol who got voted back into the house even though she accused her competitor of selling cocaine,fraudulently.

Not to mention Liawatha. Putting that woman in the Senate is purely moronic. She is a proven liar And definitely difficult to stomach.

Aside from that, How many Massachusetts speakers in a row now Have wound up in prison? Common thread They all have D'
S next to their name.

The best one nation wide by far However Is Jesse Jackson Junior Getting elected into office After it was proven he tried to buy Barack Obama's seat in the Senate from Rod Blagojevich
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jackbass

The best one nation wide by far However Is Jesse Jackson Junior Getting elected into office After it was proven he tried to buy Barack Obama's seat in the Senate from Rod Blagojevich
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and wasn't he re-elected while in drug rehab?


here is how the republican party needs to moderate in order to re-establish itself given the climate and trends of the electorate in the next go around...

abortion.....free, government provided and paid for abortions for anyone desiring one...in addition....the government will pay a $10,000 bonus per abortion(the average cost of one year in a public school) simply calculating the enormous amount of money that Julia's Life will cost the government and taxpayers it makes more sense to reward the person aborting the non-person for making such a wise but probably difficult "choice"

gay marriage....there will be no gender designations for marriage nor any limits going forward, you may marry whomever you wish, however many of whatever you wish and claim whatever you wish as a spouse, that spouse(s) and any offspring created, adopted or otherwise will be entitled to all of the possibilities of the entitlement state...there will be no limits(see France)

edumacation....all education in America will be free, all colleges and universities will provide free education(have you seen the endowments???) to whoever wants education and enrollment will be determined by lottery...there will be no advantages to any individual requesting entry into any institution, all applicants, legal or illegal, will go into a hat and names will be drawn until the seats are filled...all student loans will be forgiven and none will be required going foreward

incomes....all payrolls will be sent directly to the federal government where it will be determined and redistributed evenly based on the individual and whatever you've decided constitutes your family, this will truly be "from each according to their ability to each according to their need"...noone will have an income advantage over another...the government will also place in a "lock box" the amounts calculated to get you through your retirement years which will begin for everyone regardless at age 55....maximum number of hours that any American may work during one 7 day period is 30....you will no longer have any worries over income tax, retirement saving and the like

euthanasia...at whatever point the government decides that you are using more than your share of allotted medical resources as you age you will be required to take a happy ending pill, your family will recieve a bonus caluclated from the tremendous amount of money saved by the government thanks to your early exit...this will be considered the highest form of partiotism.. if you refuse, you will be determined to be mentally incompetent and the government will appoint someone to make the decision for you this one will probably be popular until it's your turn

immigration anyone caught entering the country, legally or illegally will immediately be photographed, given a drivers license, EBT card, registered for every available government service and registerd to vote.....no need to bother with the whole becoming a citizen part anymore...it's passe'

marajuana and other fromerly illegal drugs....these will all be covered and provided for under Obamacare for free

[likwid]

Originally Posted by scottw

here is how the republican party needs to moderate in order to re-establish itself given the climate and trends of the electorate in the next go around...

So basically you want them to lie just like the last go around?
You sure like losing.

[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by likwid

So basically you want them to lie just like the last go around?
You sure like losing.

Wrong lying works great look at Obama for example we are all his mushrooms. He feeds us horse crap and keeps us in the dark and people eat it up.

How many 08 promises did he live up to? Maybe 1 passing healthcare reform. But that promise is moot because along with it comes taxes on those that make under 250k and he never put the debates on C Span. Two promise broken while fulfilling another.
Yep the conservatives are lying.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by likwid

So basically you want them to lie just like the last go around?
You sure like losing.

when you are competing in the arena of Bread and Circus...I think that is the point...noone seems to mind lies and false promises if they are made by talented liars and cult personalities....the next 2 and 4 years will be spent expanding and reinforcing the welfare state and entitlement mentality....republicans will always be portrayed as those who will take away the goodies if elected...it's a no win...as in Eurpoe we will end up with parties at election time arguing over who is better equipped to manage the collapsing welfare state, the only way to win at this point, is to simply promise more...it's not the parties, it's not the system...it's the people