Gods Intention

[basswipe]

If you believe that a child conceived by rape is god's will you are a fvcking lunatic plane and simple.

Well with the "god's will" mentality anything is now acceptable.All the pain,destruction and stupidity that happens everyday must be god's will!Sh!t that splinter I got today at work must be god's will.

God's will is the pussy's way out of making a real decision.If my wife or child were raped and conception occurred no child would ever be born as the result.....NOT EVER.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by basswipe

If you believe that a child conceived by rape is god's will you are a fvcking lunatic plane and simple.

Well with the "god's will" mentality anything is now acceptable.All the pain,destruction and stupidity that happens everyday must be god's will!Sh!t that splinter I got today at work must be god's will.

God's will is the pussy's way out of making a real decision.If my wife or child were raped and conception occurred no child would ever be born as the result.....NOT EVER.

Are you saying a child conceived through rape does not deserve a chance at life?
Btw I do not have a position in the abortion fight. Every situation is different and I won't judge others
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[basswipe]

Originally Posted by buckman

Are you saying a child conceived through rape does not deserve a chance at life?
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Yes.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by basswipe

Yes.

I know someone very special to me who was and I'm very happy you were not part of there life or be killed decision

[Sea Dangles]

Funny to watch the psychos get upset and scramble to defend their beliefs. I don't anticipate anybody changing their minds regardless.Even trying to substitute the word nature for God,but a rose is still a rose.
zealots who will be surrounded by virgins upon death should be grouped with you morons for an intelligent discussion.
God bless fox news........?

Yeah, that is psyco speak in any language.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Funny to watch the psychos

Who are the psychos spewing aggressive anti-social rhetoric here? Differences of opinion are not anti-social, trying to squelch those differences would be.

get upset

How do you equate rational discussion with being upset? Are you upset that others are discussing the very topic you introduced? Are we all supposed to agree with you or be called psychos?

and scramble to defend their beliefs.

Scramble? Has the discussion been disorderly (discounting some exceptions of gratuitous name calling)? Are you scrambling to promote your belief? Several here have tried to understand Mourdock's statement in light of his beliefs. That doesn't mean we all hold those beliefs. Though I have much admiration for Christianity as a religion, I am not a Christian. I cannot, at least not yet, submit myself to the dogma of any religion. But I can defend other's beliefs when they are being unfairly attacked or ridiculed.

don't anticipate anybody changing their minds regardless.Even trying to substitute the word nature for God,but a rose is still a rose.
zealots who will be surrounded by virgins upon death should be grouped with you morons for an intelligent discussion.
God bless fox news........?

You sound bitter. Or upset. Even a bit of a zealot for your belief. Are you not able to mount an intelligent discussion with those who disagree with you. Your insistence on comparing us "morons" with Taliban and Islam while not being able to accept or discuss a different point of view compares you more to them than those you claim to be similar religious zealots.

Yeah, that is psyco speak in any language.

Right . . . whose speech is psycho here?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by basswipe

If you believe that a child conceived by rape is god's will you are a fvcking lunatic plane and simple.

Well with the "god's will" mentality anything is now acceptable.All the pain,destruction and stupidity that happens everyday must be god's will!Sh!t that splinter I got today at work must be god's will.

God's will is the pussy's way out of making a real decision.If my wife or child were raped and conception occurred no child would ever be born as the result.....NOT EVER.

Basswipe, what if you were conceived via rape? Would you rather be aborted, or brought into the world?

The 'Gods will' argument doesn't mean that anything immoral is acceptable. It just implies that things happen for a reason, even though that reason often isn't clear in the here and now. That's where 'faith' comes in. The fact that events are God's will doesn't mean that we don't have free will, and it doesn't mean that certain things are wrong.

This post says as much about you as Murdoch's statement says about him.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

It just implies that things happen for a reason, even though that reason often isn't clear in the here and now. That's where 'faith' comes in.

This is just as completely demented as the original remarks.

-spence

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

This is just as completely demented as the original remarks.

-spence

And what higher authority do you have to pronounce someone elses words as demented without demonstrating why, and why your remark isn't?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

This is just as completely demented as the original remarks.

-spence

Spence, you subscribe to a political philosophy that claims that a mass murderer has the right to live, but not an unborn baby. As such, I am not surprised that you cannot comprehend my view that all human life, refardless of the circumstances of conception, is a precious, unique, irreplacable gift from God.

If someone like you thinks I'm 'demented', that's the most sure way I can think of, to know that I'm in the right.

[basswipe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Basswipe, what if you were conceived via rape? Would you rather be aborted, or brought into the world?

The 'Gods will' argument doesn't mean that anything immoral is acceptable. It just implies that things happen for a reason, even though that reason often isn't clear in the here and now. That's where 'faith' comes in. The fact that events are God's will doesn't mean that we don't have free will, and it doesn't mean that certain things are wrong.

This post says as much about you as Murdoch's statement says about him.

Yes I would rather be aborted.

As to the rest of your post it is completely meaningless to me as I have no "faith" and I do not believe in god,I'm a realist.

And I don't really care what my statement says about me in your mind.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by basswipe

Yes I would rather be aborted.

As to the rest of your post it is completely meaningless to me as I have no "faith" and I do not believe in god,I'm a realist.

And I don't really care what my statement says about me in your mind.

Couldn't agree more with you.

My take on this is the child should have a "chance". And by chance, I mean the mother should always under any circumstance have the option to chose weather she has a child or not.
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