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10-23-2012, 07:18 PM
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lobster = striper bait
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Could it be another Armchair Admiral? That was what I could post in 3 minutes, below will be what i can crank out in 20 because dinner is almost ready and I have to work tonight.
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If this took you 20 minutes to come up with then you really need to read more.
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I trust my assessment more (and that of the CBO)
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I don't trust you at all, so I guess all is fair, and where do you think the CBO got their numbers? The ship fairy?
*giant snip because its all irrelevant*
So basically now you're admitting that Romney was wrong? Great! Good to see were on the same page.
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The Ohio replacement SSBNx will blow the Navy Shipbuilding budget. Just crush it. Each ship could cost 1/3 of the total shipbuilding budget (I actually believe SSBNs should be funded outside of Navy shipbuilding). The Virginia is too small to rework even though that has been suggested (Trident D5s are larger than the hull) and the Ohio is tooooooo old to restart production. It would take years to scan the drawings (yes, paper) and recreate in 3D intelligent CAD systems. Seawolf might be able to be reworked but we stopped those at 3 because they were too much $$$$
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Congratulations! How's 2008 working out for you? Virginia replaces Seawolf. Seawolf is done due to stupidity and massive overruns. The new SSBN will be modeled after the Virginia program to stay on budget, which amazingly GD has done very well (and kept a ton of Americans employed in Groton and Quonset.)
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Put that in your 313 Horse & Bayonet pipe and smoke it
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How's that "lowest number since 1916" working out for you? I hope well.
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10-23-2012, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by likwid
*giant snip because its all irrelevant*
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Yawn. Bottle of Scotch. I speak the trooth
BTW - reread it without the chip on your shoulder and the happy juice. And for the SSBNx - the Virgina class has a 34' beam. The D5 is 44' in length. It won't fit. Even with a hump (a la Russian Deltas) which is not outside the realm of possibility it is too small of a hull. The Ohio is way old. Redesign might cost about as much as a clean sheet of paper. If you redesign a new missile to fit in a smaller Virginia style hull you double the costs and loose range.
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10-24-2012, 03:35 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
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Mitt Romney: Syria is Iran's only ally in the Arab world. It's their route to the sea. It's the route for them to arm Hezbollah in Lebanon, which threatens, of course, our ally, Israel. And so seeing Syria remove Assad is a very high priority for us.
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
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10-24-2012, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Tagger
Mitt Romney: Syria is Iran's only ally in the Arab world. It's their route to the sea. It's the route for them to arm Hezbollah in Lebanon, which threatens, of course, our ally, Israel. And so seeing Syria remove Assad is a very high priority for us.
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look at a real map...he was talking about the Mediterranean Sea....obviously
Syria receiving Iranian arms 'almost daily' via Iraq - Thursday 20 September 2012
Syria receiving Iranian arms 'almost daily' via Iraq - Thursday 20 September 2012 | World news | guardian.co.uk
SYRIA has accelerated its supply of weapons, including advanced ballistic missiles, to Hezbollah militants in Lebanon in a move that could further inflame an already destabilised region.
With the help of experts from Iran and North Korea, Damascus is pressing ahead with its development of sophisticated missiles at a secret site nicknamed "missile city" built into Jabal Taqsis, a mountain near the opposition stronghold of Hama.
With financial and political support from Iran, the Syrians have also stepped up their military assistance to Hezbollah, which must now rank as the most powerful non-state military force in the world.
Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian
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10-24-2012, 05:27 AM
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lobster = striper bait
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Yawn. Bottle of Scotch. I speak the trooth
BTW - reread it without the chip on your shoulder and the happy juice. And for the SSBNx - the Virgina class has a 34' beam. The D5 is 44' in length. It won't fit. Even with a hump (a la Russian Deltas) which is not outside the realm of possibility it is too small of a hull. The Ohio is way old. Redesign might cost about as much as a clean sheet of paper. If you redesign a new missile to fit in a smaller Virginia style hull you double the costs and loose range.
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I checked to see if I forgot a word, I didn't, I said after the Virginia program not after the Virginia itself.
They came in under budget, and under timeline on EVERY boat in Groton.
Bottle of Scotch? Hittin the juice won't do you any good, nothing to be that depressed by.
So which president were we under when we had the smallest fleet? 
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10-24-2012, 06:57 AM
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The Virginia PROGRAM is just that, a program. The Virginia hull won't work, the reactor too small to be used in a big hull.
Yes, Groton & EB do subs the best. Just as Bath Built is Best on surface ships. But remember, this is a Navy, not a jobs program.
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