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Old 10-19-2012, 03:12 PM   #1
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You amaze me on how you can spin "binder" into some sexist comment...You know what he meant. He meant he had a list of many women that were eligible for his cabinet, so many the staff put them in a notebook. But the dems see everything for the political soundbites.
The reason the comment was memorable is that Romney, when trying to talk about the value to women actually spoke about them like a commodity.

Some people are obviously hypersensitive to this and for others it just sounded odd.

Hence my label of mildly sexist. Combined with his remark about getting home to cook dinner did make him sound a bit out of touch. I don't think he's a sexist person but likely a bit fuddy on matters of sex.

Personally I find the notion that he fabricated the story far more troubling.

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Old 10-19-2012, 03:27 PM   #2
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Personally I find the notion that he fabricated story far more troubling.

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Old 10-19-2012, 03:33 PM   #3
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Old 10-19-2012, 03:45 PM   #4
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yes spence, some democrat nobody in MA is crying about it in the media but lets see what Romney's sideman (oops, side woman) as governor had to say about it.
who you going to believe???


Mitt Romney’s female ex-lieutenant governor took a swipe on Thursday at criticism of the GOP nominee’s comment during the debate that he had “binders full of women” while he was staffing up as governor of Massachusetts.

“I … think this is so ironic because it’s given us an opportunity to talk about one of the great strengths of Gov. Romney during his time in office, which was that he did want to bring women’s voices into government, that he did have half of the women in his top appointed positions, right there with him,” said Kerry Healey, the former lieutenant governor of Massachusetts who served with Romney.

Her comments came in the wake of an explosion, on Twitter and beyond, of memes and jokes jabbing Romney for his “binders” comment. But Healey, who was interviewed on Fox News’s “America’s Newsroom with Bill Hemmer and Martha MacCallum,” said she didn’t find Romney’s comments eyebrow-raising.

“I was the person he asked to be liaison to the group that had collected those résumés for us,” Healey said. “So I had spent hours poring over the résumés of the women contained in those binders. I knew exactly what he was talking about.”

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Old 10-19-2012, 04:04 PM   #5
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yes spence, some democrat nobody in MA is crying about it in the media but lets see what Romney's sideman (oops, side woman) as governor had to say about it.
who you going to believe???
Actually, I believe she was with MassGAP and led the bi-partisan effort to promote qualified women regardless of which party was elected.

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The reason the comment was memorable is that Romney, when trying to talk about the value to women actually spoke about them like a commodity.
"If you say something and there are two ways that it could possibly be interpreted, women will always choose the one that pisses you off."
This quote I posted earlier in the thread is even more relevant here...

This bs pedantic scrutiny of every word that comes out of the mouths of all public figures is getting rather ridiculous.

People think there's too much splitting of hairs with regards to word-choice in this Political Forum. Broaden that to the rest of the country analyzing word-choice as opposed to intention, and every single one of us would spend more of our days apologizing for using the wrong vocabulary as opposed to getting anything accomplish.

Every single person knows what Romney meant.

It's ridiculous when people do it to Romney and it's just as ridiculous when it'd done to Obama.
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Spence gets P O'd because he has to do the dishes after working all day.....
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Old 10-20-2012, 07:16 AM   #8
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This bs pedantic scrutiny of every word that comes out of the mouths of all public figures is getting rather ridiculous.
Although the reactions to bored kids (sorry, political campaigns aren't that good with photoshops) making ridiculous memes out of them are just too goddamn awesome. I've never seen such outrage.


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Old 10-20-2012, 07:38 AM   #9
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Spence - In my post, I suggested that one coule reasonably conclude that Obama was erferring to the Bengazi attack in the Rose Garden. It was the very next day, so there's no reason he was assuming to anything else. Fair enough?

HOWEVER. For the next 2 weeks, everything we heard from the administration (be it Obama, Jay Carney, or Ambassador Rice) were specific claims that it was not an act of terror. Soence, it is one thing to say "we aren't going to speculate until the facts are known" - that would be reasonable. But Obama and his team made several specific, affirmative statements, that there was "no evidence" that the attack was anything other than a spontaneous response to the video.

That's what they sais again, and again, and again. And we now know with a 100% certainty that's not true. All of the intelligence reports indicated that it certainly was an act of terror. Despite your claim that Ambassador Stevense contributed to his own death due to his "false sense of security", we now Know for for certain that Stevens expressed concern about the reduced security.

I'll concede Obama was referring to the attack (vaguely) as an act of terror in teh Rose Garden. However, in the next 2 weeks, he said that it wasn't an act of terror. We've seen videos of his saying it was a response to the video.

I'm not saying he changed his tune to dodge responsibility for the screw-up in security levels. But asking that, is a fair question. And when Obama was asked that question at the debate (who rejected requests for more security, and why), his answer was that the diplomats are heroes who do hard work.

Obama isn't doing anything to give this the appearance that it's not a cover up. This will hurt him dearly in the next debate.

As I have said repeatedly, I give Obama an 'A' for killing terrorists, I thinhk it's his best accomplishment. Thus, the foreign policy debate should have been the arena where he had the greatest advantage. He shot himself in the foot right before the debate, and opened the dooe to very valid (in fact, necessary) questions about whether or not anyone in his administration is on the ball when it comes to foreign policy.

When Ambassador Rice did the Sunday shows, and Obama was at the UN, everyone in the world knew it was a terrorist attack. But the administration specifically denied that.

You go ahead, and try making that wrong.
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Old 10-20-2012, 07:36 AM   #10
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This bs pedantic scrutiny of every word that comes out of the mouths of all public figures is getting rather ridiculous.
I think you're missing the point...

Does Romney 'get' women who work? - CNN.com

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I think you're missing the point...

Does Romney 'get' women who work? - CNN.com

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that would be working WAY too hard to make an absurd point...
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:29 AM   #12
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Does Romney 'get' women who work? - CNN.com

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