Debate #2

[spence]

Interesting debate. Not as decisive as the first but Obama certainly had the edge.

Romney didn't seem prepared with a game plan like before, and he was easily irritated. Really came off as petulant for most of the debate. His incessant bickering with the moderator and disrespect for the President will likely be a turn off to women and independents.

Obama made a few small mistakes and Romney several bigger ones. Romney really blew it with the Libya attack. Obama looked pretty comfortable and confident the entire time.

The next debate is all about foreign policy and it should be good.

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Interesting debate. Not as decisive as the first but Obama certainly had the edge.

Romney didn't seem prepared with a game plan like before, and he was easily irritated. Really came off as petulant for most of the debate. His incessant bickering with the moderator and disrespect for the President will likely be a turn off to women and independents.

Obama made a few small mistakes and Romney several bigger ones. Romney really blew it with the Libya attack. Obama looked pretty comfortable and confident the entire time.

The next debate is all about foreign policy and it should be good.

-spence

It was interesting, I thought it was more of a draw.

Obama could not have been worse than 2 weeks ago, and he wasn't. I thought Ronmney clobbered Obama on energy (denying Obama his claim that he's responsible for increased drilling on private land, which he has nothing to do with) and on the economy. Romney blew a chance on Libya, though Obama got some help from the moderator there, which was ridiculous. Obama came across better on the social issues.

Again, I thought the questions were insanely left-leaning. If someone is going to ask Romney why he's different than Bush, then someone should ask Obama why he's different than Jimmy Carter. If a Hispanic gets to challenmge Romney on immigration, how about having the widow of a Texas rancher murdered by an illegal alien, asking Obama about his stance on immigration..I don't see how anyone can claim teh questions wre eanywhere near balanced...women's compensation and assault rifles? We spend 20% of the allocated time on those issues?

It's a tight race.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

It was interesting, I thought it was more of a draw.

Obama could not have been worse than 2 weeks ago, and he wasn't. I thought Ronmney clobbered Obama on energy (denying Obama his claim that he's responsible for increased drilling on private land, which he has nothing to do with) and on the economy. Romney blew a chance on Libya, though Obama got some help from the moderator there, which was ridiculous. Obama came across better on the social issues.

Again, I thought the questions were insanely left-leaning. If someone is going to ask Romney why he's different than Bush, then someone should ask Obama why he's different than Jimmy Carter. If a Hispanic gets to challenmge Romney on immigration, how about having the widow of a Texas rancher murdered by an illegal alien, asking Obama about his stance on immigration..I don't see how anyone can claim teh questions wre eanywhere near balanced...women's compensation and assault rifles? We spend 20% of the allocated time on those issues?

It's a tight race.

Blame the media, blame the moderator, blame the questions blah blah blah...

It was a town hall in New York. I doubt there are too many widows of Texas ranchers mulling about.

-spence

[JohnR]

I think neither looked very presidential and I would call it a draw. Obama was more engaged than last time, was more persuasive in his arguments, and carried the ball more with fewer fumbles this time. Romney was not the dominant player last night.

Both ground out and ugly time last night.

Obama did not categorize Libya as an Act of Terror in that speech and is being misleading stating otherwise.

Really getting sick of both parties and the spin.

Originally Posted by spence

Interesting debate. Not as decisive as the first but Obama certainly had the edge.

Romney didn't seem prepared with a game plan like before, and he was easily irritated. Really came off as petulant for most of the debate. His incessant bickering with the moderator and disrespect for the President will likely be a turn off to women and independents.

Obama made a few small mistakes and Romney several bigger ones. Romney really blew it with the Libya attack. Obama looked pretty comfortable and confident the entire time.

The next debate is all about foreign policy and it should be good.

-spence

Speaking of spin, Obama was his usual mix of Von Clausewitz, Mahan, JFK, Einstein, and Hamilton, Adams, and Washington, eh Spence?

[Clammer]

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[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by Clammer

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that,s why I,m heading out fishing

Ya get more truth & honesty @ a back ally drug deal

I remembered why I never go into this forum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this whole post is as much a waste as last nights debate .

Bottom line >IMO either way .whoever gets the screws & gets elected ><><>< WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE are #^&#^&#^&#^&ed .

PS .I,ll catch a couple for ya all ><><><><>< PS >JPI You s/b getting laid instead of spending all the time your have left in this forum .,., OLD GOAT ><><

[Raider Ronnie]

Mike.
No offense but you probably look at things quite different at your age being older.
If I were older I probably wouldn't give a rats ass either.
Being 48 and with 3 kids between 11th & 6th grade I have to pay attention as hopefully I have another 30-40 years to go.

My take on last night.
Pretty even on delivery & performance.
Not even close on the facts.
Obama is so full of #^&#^&#^&#^&.





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that,s why I,m heading out fishing

Ya get more truth & honesty @ a back ally drug deal

I remembered why I never go into this forum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this whole post is as much a waste as last nights debate .

Bottom line >IMO either way .whoever gets the screws & gets elected ><><>< WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE are #^&#^&#^&#^&ed .

PS .I,ll catch a couple for ya all ><><><><>< PS >JPI You s/b getting laid instead of spending all the time your have left in this forum .,., OLD GOAT ><><[/QUOTE]
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Mike.
No offense but you probably look at things quite different at your age being older.
If I were older I probably wouldn't give a rats ass either.
Being 48 and with 3 kids between 11th & 6th grade I have to pay attention as hopefully I have another 30-40 years to go.

Bingo. My boys are ages 6, 2, and 1. This election will have real consequences on my ability to provide for them the way I want (and to pay for college), and on their ability to have the chance to get off to a good start when they go out on their own, and on my ability to retire comfortably.

Sometimes (often) I really wish I was born in my Dad's generation...spend 35 years with 1 company; wife not expected to have to work; pension in retirement; housing, healthcare, and college SO MUCH less expensive relative to income than today.

[justplugit]

I think it was a boring draw. Learned nothing new.

IMHO, cut through all the BS and it still comes down to what you want America to be, a
capitalistic country where people are independent, make their own decesions and choices,
or a socialistic country where government makes the decisions and choices for you.

In the end,the vote will come down to how many people want to be independent vs
how many want a government to provide for them and tell them what to do.

BTW, about spending time here?, the Clam Man has the answer.