Debate #1

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Spency, what about that $40 trillion gap I asked you about? Nothing to say? Not at all? Can you at least admit that you have no idea how to address that gap, and that therefore those programs might genuinely need a haircut in order to be saved? Would it literally kill you to admit that?

Nobody has a plan to fully address the increase in estimated spending.

There was a good report I saw the other day that showed the Obama and Ryan plans for Medicare had about the same impact, just achieved via different means. Romney is even worse as he's making promises he can't keep to maintain spending levels longer than Obama.

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Nobody has a plan to fully address the increase in estimated spending.

There was a good report I saw the other day that showed the Obama and Ryan plans for Medicare had about the same impact, just achieved via different means. Romney is even worse as he's making promises he can't keep to maintain spending levels longer than Obama.

-spence

"Nobody has a plan to fully address the increase in estimated spending."

Paul Ryan does. Your side attacked him for it, and offered exactly nothing as an alternative.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Nobody has a plan to fully address the increase in estimated spending."

Paul Ryan does. Your side attacked him for it, and offered exactly nothing as an alternative.

He really doesn't. His plan relies on ridiculous revenue increases and spending cuts that would have to be absorbed by states none of which are prepared.

I can give you a plan...doesn't mean it's a feasible one.

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

He really doesn't. His plan relies on ridiculous revenue increases and spending cuts that would have to be absorbed by states none of which are prepared.

I can give you a plan...doesn't mean it's a feasible one.

-spence

Spence, you didn't have to tell me (or anyone here) that you don't like Ryan's plan. The point is, Ryan is a congressman from Wisconsin, and he had the political courage to announce a plan that he knew he would get attacked for.

What better alternative has Obama suggested in 4 years? None. And if Obama isn't going to change the plans, how has he said he'd get the $40 trillion? Not a peep.

And that's fine with you. You are critical because you don't like Ryan's plan, but you are in love with Obama, who has offered exactly nothing. Actually, by taking billions from Medicare to fund Obamacare, he is making it worse, but why quibble?

Good day.