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Old 09-23-2012, 04:40 PM   #1
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Why do you think bankers give so much to Congress? To give them tax loopholes to defer their income with.

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Of course, everyone gives to a candidate or party because they want something.

However, the purpose of a lower long term capital gains tax is to keep the
money invested in a company for long term use so it helps to capitalize,
grow the company, and hire more employees. Nothing wrong with that.

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Old 09-23-2012, 06:51 PM   #2
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Of course, everyone gives to a candidate or party because they want something.
Any why Romney's tax plan will fall apart, every deduction has a constituency and he's not going to name names before the election.

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However, the purpose of a lower long term capital gains tax is to keep the money invested in a company for long term use so it helps to capitalize, grow the company, and hire more employees. Nothing wrong with that.
No, those are the tax rules that you and I follow.

A fund manager get's to set the initial value of profit they're entitled as part of their contract at zero if they want and be listed as a partner...even if they know the value should be higher...

It's even more crazy when you look at Romney's retirement account. He can then take these "worthless" profit shares and sell them into his 401K, where they grow like mushrooms tax free and circumvent contribution limits.

Worse, Romney then cut a deal where he gets his profit share for 10 years after employment...even though he's not working? These aren't priced options that any top exec would get...they're special.

I'm still curious to understand if he's really used Cayman firms so his IRA can invest back in Bain and avoid the tax hit.

Bottom line...there's a lot of tax talking points out there...but we're talking about someone who doesn't even reflect the 1%.

This is like fingers on one hand kind of stuff.

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Old 09-24-2012, 08:09 AM   #3
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A fund manager get's to set the initial value of profit they're entitled as part of their contract at zero if they want and be listed as a partner...even if they know the value should be higher...

It's even more crazy when you look at Romney's retirement account. He can then take these "worthless" profit shares and sell them into his 401K, where they grow like mushrooms tax free and circumvent contribution limits.

Worse, Romney then cut a deal where he gets his profit share for 10 years after employment...even though he's not working? These aren't priced options that any top exec would get...they're special.

I'm still curious to understand if he's really used Cayman firms so his IRA can invest back in Bain and avoid the tax hit.

Bottom line...there's a lot of tax talking points out there...but we're talking about someone who doesn't even reflect the 1%.

This is like fingers on one hand kind of stuff.

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You'll have to complain to the IRS,or better yet have them change the rules.

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Old 09-24-2012, 11:35 AM   #4
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You'll have to complain to the IRS,or better yet have them change the rules.
The money guys get to make the rules, that's the entire point.

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Old 09-24-2012, 12:59 PM   #5
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The money guys get to make the rules, that's the entire point.

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For all of 2009, Obama and the Democratic Congress made the rules. If they had issues with the tax code, they could have changed it. They chose not to. So why, then, is it fair to attack Romney for playing by the rules that the Democrats indirectly endorsed, by opting not to change them when they had the opportunity to change them?
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Old 09-24-2012, 02:08 PM   #6
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Filibuster proof majority from September 24, 2009 to February 10, 2010. The two years and "all of 2009" statements are incorrect.

There were more than 100 Republican filibusters in 2009.
How Filibusters Are Strangling the Senate - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Old 09-24-2012, 02:38 PM   #7
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Filibuster proof majority from September 24, 2009 to February 10, 2010. The two years and "all of 2009" statements are incorrect.

There were more than 100 Republican filibusters in 2009.
How Filibusters Are Strangling the Senate - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
(1) What happens while the MN Senate seat wwas contested? Who voted for that seat? No one?

(2) Regardless of how long there was a fillibuster-proof majority...unless the GOP defeated a proposed immigration bill by fillibuster, Obama cannot blame the GOP for killing immigration reform. He just can't. There has been no immigration reform because the Democrats didn't propose any such bill, not because of the GOP.
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