Obama blames GOP for his 'biggest failure'

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

A question for Zimmy, Spence, Paul S...isn't that severly lacking in honesty?

PaulS, Zimmy, Spence...please tell me where I'm wrong on this?

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let me know when any of this sounds familiar


"No matter how great the crimes progressives commit, no matter how terrible the futures they labor to create, no matter how devastating the human catastrophes they leave behind, the world outside the faith seems ready to forgive their “mistakes” and to grant them the grace of “good intentions.”

As Jamie Glazov, a student of the left, has observed in an article about the middle-class defenders of recently captured Seventies terrorist Kathy Soliah: “if you can successfully camouflage your own pathology and hatred with a concern for the ‘poor’ and the ‘downtrodden,’ then there will always be a ‘progressive’ milieu to support and defend you.”

If you believed that others could understand your truth, you would not think of yourself as part of a “vanguard.” You would no longer inhabit the morally charmed world of an elite whose members alone can see the light and whose mission is to lead the unenlightened towards it. If everybody could see the same horizon and knew the path to reach it, the future would already have happened and there would be no need for the army of the saints.

That is both the ethical core and psychological heart of what it means to be a part of the left. That is where the gratification comes from. To see yourself as a redeemer. To feel anointed. To be among the elect. In other words: To be progressive is itself the most satisfying narcissism of all.

That is why it is of little concern to them that their socialist schemes have run aground, burying millions of human beings in the process. That is why they don’t care that their panaceas have caused more human suffering than any injustice they have ever challenged. That is why they never learn from their “mistakes,” why the continuance of Them is more important than any truth.

Conservatives who think progressives are misinformed idealists will always be blind-sided by the sheer malice of the left -- by the cynicism of those who pride themselves on their principles; by the viciousness of those who champion sensitivity; by the intolerance of those who call themselves liberal; and by the ruthless disregard for the well-being of the poor on the part of those who preen themselves as their champions.

Conservatives are surprised because they see progressives as merely misguided, when they are, in fact, morally – and ontologically -- misdirected. They are the messianists of a false religious faith. Since the redeemed future that justifies their existence and rationalizes their hypocrisy can never be realized, what really motivates progressives is a modern idolatry: their limitless passion for the continuance of Them."




Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.

Barack Obama

[Jim in CT]

Great post Scott. That may be your magnum opus.

We're in serious trouble. And it's all preventable.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

That may be your magnum opus.

No, to be an opus he'd have to actually write something.

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

No, to be an opus he'd have to actually write something.

-spence

Spence, one more time...

What was your response to my claim that an effective leader can do 2 things at once?

You insulted me by saying I couldn't grasp your response. I just checked that thread again. Unless there's something really wrong with my eyes, you did not respond...

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Spence, if Obama calls this his "biggest failure', then clearly this was not a superflous issue to him.

He was on UNIVISION for Christmas sake.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Spence, one more time...

What was your response to my claim that an effective leader can do 2 things at once?

You insulted me by saying I couldn't grasp your response. I just checked that thread again. Unless there's something really wrong with my eyes, you did not respond...

Did you read the actual transcript? President Obama is quite lucid and articulate.

President Obama says very clearly upon taking office his highest priority was the economy. He also says that the Republicans who supported reform before the election had suddenly flipped...

The President doesn't have magic powers. If Republican Senators aren't going to participate in the dialogue then President Obama doesn't have a filibuster proof majority for very long, perhaps a few months? Hell, he couldn't even get the DREAM ACT through the Senate let alone comprehensive reform.

I'm not sure what your point of this entire thread is...just sounds like senseless bitching to me.

Seriously Jim, you're making the BLAME BUSH crowd look like rank amateurs.

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

He was on UNIVISION for Christmas sake.


Did you read the actual transcript? President Obama is quite lucid and articulate.

President Obama says very clearly upon taking office his highest priority was the economy. He also says that the Republicans who supported reform before the election had suddenly flipped...

The President doesn't have magic powers. If Republican Senators aren't going to participate in the dialogue then President Obama doesn't have a filibuster proof majority for very long, perhaps a few months? Hell, he couldn't even get the DREAM ACT through the Senate let alone comprehensive reform.

I'm not sure what your point of this entire thread is...just sounds like senseless bitching to me.

Seriously Jim, you're making the BLAME BUSH crowd look like rank amateurs.

-spence

"He was on UNIVISION for Christmas sake..."

What's your point? That it's OK for Obama to pander to the audience, tell them whatever they want to hear, and then forget about it?

"Did you read the actual transcript?

Sure I did. Did you?

In 2008, Obama said this..."What I can guarantee is that we will have in the first year an immigration bill that I strongly support"


Read more: Hector Barreto: On Univision, Obama Admits Breaking Promises to Hispanics | Fox News Latino

Spence, that's not an ambiguous statement, is it?

Obama promi9sed immigration reform in his first year. During every single day of that first year, the Democrats controlled the legislature. Therefore, he cannot honestly say that the GOP stopped him from honoring his "guarantee".

"President Obama says very clearly upon taking office his highest priority was the economy"

Fine. WHY CAN'T HE DO TWO THINGS AT THE SAME TIME? You keep dodging that question, Spence...

"President Obama doesn't have a filibuster proof majority for very long, perhaps a few months?"

You're being dishonest here. Once again, he had a fillibuster-proof majority for every single day of his first 13 months (which is longer than the time period in which he guaranteed immigration reform. And even after thatm did the Democrats propose immigration reform that was fillibustered by the GOP? Nope...

"I'm not sure what your point of this entire thread is"

(1) Obama broke a specific promise
(2) Obama lied about why he didn't fulfill that promise (the GOP could not have blocked immigration reform during his entire first year)
(3) you are as intellectually dishonest as he is, incapable of questioning anything that comes out of his mouth

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

He was on UNIVISION for Christmas sake. Did you read the actual transcript? President Obama is quite lucid and articulate. President Obama says very clearly upon taking office his highest priority was the economy. He also says that the Republicans who supported reform before the election had suddenly flipped... The President doesn't have magic powers. If Republican Senators aren't going to participate in the dialogue then President Obama doesn't have a filibuster proof majority for very long, perhaps a few months? Hell, he couldn't even get the DREAM ACT through the Senate let alone comprehensive reform. I'm not sure what your point of this entire thread is...just sounds like senseless bitching to me. Seriously Jim, you're making the BLAME BUSH crowd look like rank amateurs. -spence

"He also says that the Republicans who supported reform before the election had suddenly flipped"

Spence, maybe you and Barack should take a high school civics class. For Obama's first 13 months, he didn't need any GOP support to pass any immigration law he wanted. The Democrats controlled the house, and had a fillibuster-proof majority in the Senate. Therefore, neither Obama nor you can accurately claim that the GOP prevented immigration reform in his first 13 months.

Spence, what is it about that statement, exactly, that do you not understand?

"you're making the BLAME BUSH crowd look like rank amateurs"

No, I'm not. I'm proving irrefutably that Obama is a liar. I have proven that to a 100% certainty. I am simultaneously proving that you are also a liar and/or a coward. You will not admit hard, concrete, irrefutable fact, if it exposes your hero for what he is.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No, I'm not. I'm proving irrefutably that Obama is a liar. I have proven that to a 100% certainty. I am simultaneously proving that you are also a liar and/or a coward. You will not admit hard, concrete, irrefutable fact, if it exposes your hero for what he is.

Not keeping a campaign promise isn't a lie unless you never had any intention of fulfilling that promise. A lot goes on that's out of your control.

And since you like facts, here are some on said super majority.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did...-for-how-long/

Do you seriously think President Obama didn't want to reform immigration? Unless you do you really don't have a leg to stand on.

-spence