I'm concerned about Mitt Romney

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Spence, you being a Lib and all, we know how concerned you are about the welfare and the deep compassion you have for Repubs and conservatives, but relax, take a deep breath and don't loose any sleep over it.

I'm no liberal, you should know that by now.

And I do care about the GOP as we need a healthy Republican party to function. I'm concerned the party has poisoned itself to the point where they'd rather take the whole system down than do anything constructive.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm concerned the party has poisoned itself to the point where they'd rather take the whole system down than do anything constructive.

-spence

might be the dumbest thing you've ever said

[Sea Dangles]

Spence has jumped the shark.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm no liberal, you should know that by now.

And I do care about the GOP as we need a healthy Republican party to function. I'm concerned the party has poisoned itself to the point where they'd rather take the whole system down than do anything constructive.

-spence

I think he's absolutely right. The mission of the GOP for the last 4 years was to deny POTUS another term. Nothing else.

And they moved so far towards the right they are hitting the bible belt circuit when they aren't in DC

[scottw]

Originally Posted by striperman36

I think he's absolutely right. The mission of the GOP for the last 4 years was to deny POTUS another term. Nothing else.

And they moved so far towards the right they are hitting the bible belt circuit when they aren't in DC

that's a very tired Zimmy talking point that Woodward forced Scarborough to admit was inaccurate or incomplete

JOE SCARBOROUGH, HOST: And Bob, you talk about this. And you see it time and time again in your book where Republicans give ideas, and every idea is rejected outright. I want to focus, though, on a quote. And I’ve got to admit, just by reading press reports, I didn't know the other side of the Mitch McConnell quote. And I think I, at least, owe him an apology here on the air because we've repeated it a thousand times where Mitch McConnell says, my one priority, my top priority is preventing a second Obama term. But you actually pull out what nobody in the media pulls out, and that's the rest of Mitch McConnell’s statement. What is it?

BOB WOODWARD: And where McConnell says, I don't want Obama to fail, I want him to change. And I agree with you. I think that that's significant. Now, there is a brazenness to the first part of the quote, and as you know, Mitch McConnell is...

JOE SCARBOROUGH: He's tough.

BOB WOODWARD: He’s a hard ass on these subjects, to say the least.

JOE SCARBOROUGH: But McConnell went on to say -- and it's just never been reported -- McConnell went on to say, but if he changes, I want to work with him, and basically that's the attitude of if the guy will meet us halfway -- and I see John Heilemann rolling his eyes around the set, but time and time and time again, republicans offered suggestions, and time and time and time again, the first two years, the president rejected them outright.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm no liberal, you should know that by now.

Why not? What's wrong with being a true liberal, not the caricature liberal that is represented by what you and others have said the Republcan's have done to the word?

And I do care about the GOP as we need a healthy Republican party to function. I'm concerned the party has poisoned itself to the point where they'd rather take the whole system down than do anything constructive.

-spence

They don't want to take the "whole" system down--just that portion that has devoured the truly constitutional system that founded this nation. At least a fair percentage of Republicans do, and little, if any, Democrats do. Republicans would like to minimize or eliminate much of the "fourth branch of government," the regulatory agencies whose unelected bureaucrats promulgate the vast majority of federal laws and regulations that constrict us against the intent and purpose of the Constitution. They would like to return us to that original system of limited government by elected representatives, rather than maintaining the leviathan administrative state of masterminds who know better what we need than we do. They would like to eliminate those who rule with little to no restraint on a trajectory to being an all-powerful centralized government which gives us those rights it deems "good" and useful to a collective society, and would like to return us to a society of sovereign individuals who possess unalienable rights. They would like to take down the idea that for the "good" of all, diverse individual desires must be subservient to the well-functioning administrative power, which, in return, will give us rights to replace unalienable or constitutional rights, and allow us the properties it considers necessary.

That is the portion of "the whole system" Republicans would like to take down. And that would be extremely healthy and constructive.