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08-14-2012, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
It's probably a moot issue anyway. If I was Obama I'd dump Biden and pick up walnut cracker Hillary.
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If Obama was smart, that's exactly what he'd do. Biden literaly adds nothing to the ticket, Obama will win Deleware without him.
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08-14-2012, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
It's probably a moot issue anyway. If I was Obama I'd dump Biden and pick up walnut cracker Hillary.
-spence
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Well, he wouldn't dump Joe because that would make it look like his decision was faulty in the first place. But were Joe to, uhh, retire, than it would be OK.
But would O want a VP that outshines him? And then there is the Second Lady Gentleman
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08-14-2012, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Well, he wouldn't dump Joe because that would make it look like his decision was faulty in the first place. But were Joe to, uhh, retire, than it would be OK.
But would O want a VP that outshines him? And then there is the Second Lady Gentleman
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Bingo. Obama's ego will not allow him to admit judgment that was less-than-perfect. But an Obama/Hilary ticket would be much tougher to defeat. Lucky for my side that Obama is a narcissist who hates Hilary and her husband.
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08-14-2012, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Well, he wouldn't dump Joe because that would make it look like his decision was faulty in the first place. But were Joe to, uhh, retire, than it would be OK.
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Not if done correctly. Obama can simply say that... (my quotes here)
"...while Vice President Biden has been a great public servant, the challenges of the country for the next four years have shifted and demand expertise around something American's care deeply about, ensuring Medicare is around for their retirement.
2008 was about getting America out of that incredibly deep hole, and while it's been harder than anticipated, because of dramatic measures taken by my Administration and the will of the American people most are better off. Granted, there's still much work to do.
But now that the economy is becoming more stable, we must shift to the next and much bigger task, and American needs to believe the right team is in place to see to the task at hand.
With that, I introduce my new Vice President running mate, walnut cracker Hillary Clinton. Don't anybody eff with her or you'll end up like Vince Foster."
Yes, there's risk in a decision like that...but I think we'd all agree that while Biden is a great man and sharp dresser, he doesn't add a lot to the ticket for a second term.
-spence
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08-14-2012, 04:42 PM
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...but I think we'd all agree that while Biden is a great man and sharp dresser, he doesn't add a lot to the ticket for a second term.
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the only thing he added in the first term was a little comedy 
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08-14-2012, 05:15 PM
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, because of dramatic measures taken by my Administration and the will of the American people most are better off.
-spence
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Spence, how does that praise jive with Obama's recent admission that America is not better off now, than it was before he took office? You are giving him more praise than he gives himself...quite a feat, since we are talking about a megalomaniac who gives his convention speech in front of Greek columns, since he sees himself as more than mortal...
Spence, who are these millions of Americans that are better off now than before he came in?
- America is trillions further in the red than before he took office
- More Americans are unemployed than before he took office
- All Americans are paying much more atthe pump than befor ehe took office
- Because he punted on entitlement reform for 4 years, the inevitable fix for my (our) generation will be that much more painful.
Those are all facts...they are irrefutable.
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08-14-2012, 05:19 PM
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but I think we'd all agree that while Biden is a great man and sharp dresser, he doesn't add a lot to the ticket for a second term.
-spence
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Biden has been in the senate for a thousand years. He is known for 2 things...
(1) Giving less than 1% of his $300,000 salary to charity, and
(2) leading the partisan effort to block the nomination of Supreme Court nominee Bjork. That act led to a new term, to be "bjorked", which is understood to mean that one is blocked from somethiing they deserve, for purely partisan reasons.
What a great man. Right up there with John McCain.
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