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08-13-2012, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by striperman36
Interesting article. Thank you. It actually seems unbiased...
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About the only part that wasn't biased was when the author admits the Ryan plan might be a total failure...TWICE 
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08-13-2012, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
About the only part that wasn't biased was when the author admits the Ryan plan might be a total failure...TWICE
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Ryan's plan might indeed be a failure, Spence. But unlike the president, at least Ryan proposed a possible solution.
Spence, the other unbiased part was when the article said that we can no longer afford to ignore the problem. Yet, that's precisely what Obama has done. To be fair, Bush also ignored the problem of Medicare finances (in fact, made it worse). But Obama promised something along the lines of "change" and "a different way of doing things", or some such nonsense.
Not doing anything, is a disaster for all of us. And that is basically what Obama has done with Medicare - nothing.
Spence, I keep asking you what Obama's vision is to save Medicare. I get nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Bupkus.
Let's stop attacking Ryan for trying to solve the problem, and come up with a better solution. Insulting Ryan is not a viable alternative solution. |
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08-13-2012, 12:54 PM
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DDG-51
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R&R have my vote, but it's sad that this is the best ticket the repubs have to offer, I think this election will be a layup for o.b.  |
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08-13-2012, 02:07 PM
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sick of bluefish
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Originally Posted by spence
About the only part that wasn't biased was when the author admits the Ryan plan might be a total failure...TWICE
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every plan may fail spence. thats why it takes people with testicles to implement.
Simpson-Bowles was a good plan, sponsored by Obama. Where is that plan now? ??? No balls to implement.
The time to talk is over, the time to act is now. |
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08-13-2012, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
every plan may fail spence. thats why it takes people with testicles to implement.
Simpson-Bowles was a good plan, sponsored by Obama. Where is that plan now? ??? No balls to implement.
The time to talk is over, the time to act is now.
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I thought Simpson-Bowles was certainly a step in the right direction. It's a shame the GOP led House voted it down. Yes, Obama wasn't a strong supporter but he never even had a bill to sign or reject.
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08-13-2012, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I thought Simpson-Bowles was certainly a step in the right direction. It's a shame the GOP led House voted it down. Yes, Obama wasn't a strong supporter but he never even had a bill to sign or reject.
-spence
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"Which brings us to Simpson-Bowles (see how I did that?). On Wednesday, Reps. Jim Cooper and Steve LaTourette managed to put Simpson-Bowles to a vote before the House of Representatives. It didn't just fail. It got crushed. The final tally was 382-38. Twenty-two of the supporters were Democrats, while 16 were Republicans. But overall, the rejection was overwhelming, and overwhelmingly bipartisan."
Wonkbook: House reaches bipartisan deal to reject Simpson-Bowles - The Washington Post
Greenspan: Obama’s ‘Worst Mistake’ Was Rejecting Simpson- Bowles Deficit-Reduction Plan
http://www.moneynews.com/FinanceNews...5/02/id/437734
Geithner explains why Obama never embraced Bowles-Simpson
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mone...bowles-simpson
Last edited by scottw; 08-13-2012 at 03:00 PM..
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08-13-2012, 04:36 PM
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Was anything I said not factual? Please be specific, I'm trying to build cred with my foxhole buddy Jim.
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08-13-2012, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Was anything I said not factual? Please be specific, I'm trying to build cred with my foxhole buddy Jim.
-spence
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just adding context to your biased version
"It's a shame the GOP led House voted it down" vs. the rejection was overwhelming, and overwhelmingly bipartisan
"Obama wasn't a strong supporter" vs. Obama’s ‘Worst Mistake’ Was Rejecting Simpson-Bowles and Geithner explains why Obama never embraced Bowles-Simpson
specific enough?  and this from Ezra Klein types.....for context and cred
glad you said "foxhole" 
Last edited by scottw; 08-13-2012 at 05:30 PM..
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08-13-2012, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Was anything I said not factual? Please be specific, I'm trying to build cred with my foxhole buddy Jim.
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Honest question here...what, specifically, did the GOP-led house shoot down? |
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