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08-01-2012, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Under the Assault Weapons ban they both were.
Don't you have even a basic understanding of the simple functions of mechanical objects?
-spence
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Since you say that "under the assault weapon ban they both were", then you tell us what two features in the above list are on the top-pictured gun. If you can't, then under the AWB, it is not an 'assault weapon' - plain and simple.
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Are going to let us know why both those pictured rifles would be 'assault weapons' under the AWB or just gloss over it because yet another one of holier-than-thou remarks was inappropriate due to you being incorrect?
I'll give you a hint: having a magazine and a synthetic stock to make it black and scary looking doesn't actually make a rifle an assault weapon, as defined in the federal AWB.
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08-01-2012, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Are going to let us know why both those pictured rifles would be 'assault weapons' under the AWB or just gloss over it because yet another one of holier-than-thou remarks was inappropriate due to you being incorrect?
I'll give you a hint: having a magazine and a synthetic stock to make it black and scary looking doesn't actually make a rifle an assault weapon, as defined in the federal AWB.
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I didn't even look at the pictures
-spence
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08-01-2012, 10:13 AM
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I didn't even look at the pictures
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That's as close to a "JohnnyD, you were right" as I'll get... so I'll take it. 
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08-01-2012, 01:02 PM
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That's as close to a "JohnnyD, you were right" as I'll get... so I'll take it. 
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I was just joking.
My understand is that the ban wasn't on the current state of the weapon but if it could be modified to meet the conditions of the law. So taking off the flash suppressor and changing the stock wouldn't change an AR 15's legal status under the AWB.
-spence
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08-01-2012, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I was just joking.
My understand is that the ban wasn't on the current state of the weapon but if it could be modified to meet the conditions of the law. So taking off the flash suppressor and changing the stock wouldn't change an AR 15's legal status under the AWB.
-spence
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Your understanding is incorrect. It is on the current components on the rifle. If you take the pistol grip off, a collapsible stock can be put on. Replace the threaded barrel with one that doesn't have threads and you can put a grenade launcher on.
Take a look at the image I posted at 12:38 for more details.
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08-01-2012, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Your understanding is incorrect. It is on the current components on the rifle. If you take the pistol grip off, a collapsible stock can be put on. Replace the threaded barrel with one that doesn't have threads and you can put a grenade launcher on.
Take a look at the image I posted at 12:38 for more details.
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Fair enough.
But for the sake of discussion, adding a flash suppressor or folding stock to a base AR 15 changes more than it's appearance, it change it's function.
There are plenty of things that while legal on their own are illegal when combined.
-spence
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08-01-2012, 02:01 PM
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Fair enough.
But for the sake of discussion, adding a flash suppressor or folding stock to a base AR 15 changes more than it's appearance, it change it's function.
There are plenty of things that while legal on their own are illegal when combined.
-spence
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Neither of them change the actual function of the firearm - pull trigger, a single round comes out the barrel, pull trigger again and another single round comes out. To quote one of your own comments "Don't you have even a basic understanding of the simple functions of mechanical objects?"
Neither make a rifle deadlier. Also, having only a flash suppressor or only a folding stock was perfectly legal even under the AWB.
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