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spence · 07-31-2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw

I'm just shocked to read a leftie using "wonderfully progressive socialist sentiments and ideas".....probably got a bad ice cube

It's really amazing isn't it? All these ideas and things...

-spence

scottw · 07-31-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

It's really amazing isn't it? All these ideas and things...

-spence

guess you missed it but I'm accustomed to "progressives" swearing up and down that they aren't "socialists"....odd to see the two openly joined at the hip, so to speak and coming from the mouth of a progressive/socialist...but they're a little farther down the "Road" across the pond aren't they....they should just stick with "third way"...but it's not very catchy

spence · 07-31-2012, 05:20 PM

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guess you missed it but I'm accustomed to "progressives" swearing up and down that they aren't "socialists"....odd to see the two openly joined at the hip, so to speak and coming from the mouth of a progressive/socialist...but they're a little farther down the "Road" across the pond aren't they....they should just stick with "third way"...but it's not very catchy

I think you're ignoring the fact that an admitted US liberal is about equivelant to a moderate in in most other first world countries.
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scottw · 07-31-2012, 05:48 PM

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I think you're ignoring the fact that an admitted US liberal is about equivelant to a moderate in in most other first world countries.
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that's only because from left to right it's just varying degrees of statism for the most part....which makes American Conservatism truly unique(ask any Eurpoean that has been here for any period of time )...true Conservatives recognize the individual's inailenable rights and liberties and their primacy over the State's dictate, most others expect the individual to be subordinate to the state which is why American Conservative keep fighting for individual liberty/responsibility and limited government and Europeans and the American left and progressives from both sides continue to fight for larger more expansive centralized governemnt (EU) power and influence and continually diminish the role and responsibilities of the individual......

see : giant babies being cared for cradle to grave by national health care