Bachmann

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

PaulS -

"Don't know ..."

Paul, the oceans could be filled with the many things you don't know...

"Don't know but wasn't it asked at a Repub. rally what should happen if someone was dying with no insurance and someone yelled "let him die" and the whole crowd started cheering?...where have all the compassionate cons. gone?"

Let's dissect this statement...

First you admit you don't have any facts...but that doesn't stop you from assuming there was one single incident where a crowd applauded that sick people should die. Then, you take that incident (which you probably invented) and you use it to assume that all conservatives feel the same way.

You have hit a breathtaking new low with this post. Breathtaking.

Was the gist of the quote correct or not - It was correct so your full statement has no merit. So what was breathtaking? - I admitted that I wasn't sure where it was (was it a political stop, a debate, etc). The facts of where it was doesn't matter, the fact that it took place is what matters. It was a Ron Paul rally - so why don't you apologize since I was right and you were wrong (and I won't act like a little child and make a snide comment as you usually do).

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

It was a Ron Paul rally .

Unbelievable...

Ron Paul, for your information, does not speak for conservatives. He specifically claims that his ideology is an alternative to conservative values. He speaks for a portion of people (on the fringe) who call themselves libertarians. There are massive ideological differences between Ron Paul's followers and true conservatives.

Equating Ron Paul's agenda with conservatives makes far less sense than for me to say all liberals think like Al Sharpton. Al Sharpton calls himself a progressive Democrat. Ron Paul goes out of his way to differentiate himself from the conservative wing of the Republican party.

For the record Paul and RIROCKHOUND...true conservatives care a great deal about thje sick and the poor. That's precisely why, in the study done called "Who Realy Cares", ABC News reported that conservatives donate more time and money to charity than liberals.

Who Gives and Who Doesn't? - ABC News

Can we try to be honest and rational here for 5 seconds?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Was the gist of the quote correct or not ).

No, the gist of your quote wasn't anywhere near correct. A small number of idiots do not speak for the majority of conservatives.

Paul, conservatives care deeply about the following...

• life (the unborn are precious and irreplaceable)
• fiscal responsibility (we are currently > $40 trillion in the hole, counting entitlement programs
• limited federal govt
• promoting individual liberty
• strong national defense
• charity for those in need
• support of free market capitalism

Rather than debate the merits of any of these, you seem content to find one or two idiots in our midst (which is easy in any large group), paint all of us with the same brush, and dismiss us as racists, homophobes, sexists, anti-poor, or some other insulting hate-monger.

To get back to the original intent of this thread, Bachman appears to have really stepped in it. I'm glad to see huge numbers of influential Republicans call her out on it. Maybe the liberals can try to do the same the next time some Democratic idiot declares that conservatives are waging war on women, or war against the middle class, or calling us all a bunch of Islamophobes. Maybe that'll happen. But I'm not holding my breath...

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Don't know but wasn't it asked at a Repub. rally what should happen if someone was dying with no insurance and someone yelled "let him die" and the whole crowd started cheering? Lordy Lordy, where have all the compassionate cons. gone?

There is my quote

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Please show me where a group of ifluential conservatives gave anyone the impression that conservatives want sick people to die. Do you really think that's part of the conservative platform? Look it up, it happened. I never said it was part of the cons. platform - did I? Go back and re-read my quote or look above as I've quoted it for you.


If that event took placeWhich it did., it wasn't a "conservative" high point, it wasn't a "conservative" anythingSee your anger is getting you so mad, you don't know who said what. . I expect that from Paul, he's incapable of rising above thatReally, again, look at almost all my posts - they're in direct response to your numerous comments where you criticize libs (which is fine) but always add some insult. . You're better than that.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No, the gist of your quote wasn't anywhere near correct. So show me where I was wrong. And since it was correct, why don't you apologize. I mentioned in another thread that you called a woman a vile name. You stated that you didn't. Rather than look for it, I apologized (Of course w/in a few days, I called you out for calling a woman a vile name - maybe it was Rachel Madow???). Since you are wrong, you should just apologize. A small number of idiots do not speak for the majority of conservatives I agree, just as a small group of iditots do not speak for the majority of libs..

Rather than debate the merits of any of these, you seem content to find one or two idiots in our midst (which is easy in any large group), paint all of us with the same brush, isn't that what you do? Criticize the Dems for walking out on the gun running vote (b/c they thought it was political) yet Spence showed you that the Repubs. did the same thing. Yet you ignore that.

Jim, You fail to see that I just do exactly what you do and then you get mad.

By the way, where do you get the list that you copied from?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

By the way, where do you get the list that you copied from?

Any rational conservative will tell you that list represents what's important to them.

Paul, let me ask you, what do you think are the core principles of conservative ideology? In all seriousness and honesty, what is it that you think we wish to acomplish?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Any rational conservative will tell you that list represents what's important to them.

Paul, let me ask you, what do you think are the core principles of conservative ideology? In all seriousness and honesty, what is it that you think we wish to acomplish?

I would come up with a somewhat similiar list if you asked me to write a list of cons. beliefs.

I wasn't questioning whether the list was of yours or any cons. beliefs. I asked b/c when I quoted it, there was indicator at the top and bottom of the list as though you copied the list from somewhere. No big deal.