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Old 06-29-2012, 02:10 PM   #1
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The only person in this thread who seems upset is you Jim. But on 2nd thought, I'm starting to think that is your normal tone.

It is funny to hear you talk about "serious economic and national security issues facing our country" and sounding disappointed in the Dems for not doing something about it. Where were you when the Repub. leadership said that the most important thing that they had to accomplish was to get Obama out of office - not the economy, not the war, nothing but "get him out of office"
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Old 06-29-2012, 02:27 PM   #2
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The only person in this thread who seems upset is you Jim. But on 2nd thought, I'm starting to think that is your normal tone.

It is funny to hear you talk about "serious economic and national security issues facing our country" and sounding disappointed in the Dems for not doing something about it. Where were you when the Repub. leadership said that the most important thing that they had to accomplish was to get Obama out of office - not the economy, not the war, nothing but "get him out of office"
Paul, everytime I point out the absurd actions of democrats in general, or you in particular, you tell me I'm full of hate. That dog don't hunt.

To answer your question...I, and many other people motivated by common sense and economics 101, feel that the best thing we can do for our country's economy and national security, is to throw out Obama. I give him a C on national defense (I like his use of drones) and an F on the economy (and I only give him an F because I don't know of a lower grade).

The desire of conservatives to get rid of Obama is perfectly consistent with our desire to fix the economy and to keep us safe. Those desires are not mutually exclusive, despite your claims...

Your are explicitly stating that if I say I want to get rid of Obama, that means I'm not concerned with the economy or national security?? As usual, you could not be more wrong. It's precisely because of my valid concerns for the economy and national security, that I say we need to get rid of him

Paul, if I say "Obama has to go", please tell me WHY you therefore conclude that I cannot simultaneously be concerned with the economy or security of our nation?
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Paul, everytime I point out the absurd actions of democrats in general, or you in particular, you tell me I'm full of hate. That dog don't hunt.But your constantly pointing out minor thinks that you don't like but don't recognize the Repub. do the same thing - Where where you when a reporter kept interupting the Pres.? Where were you when Romney supporters were showing up at Obama speaches and honking car horns? (I guess I can post when those things happen but then I'd feel petty)You have even stated you "detest" the Pres. I'll tell you, that is not a mainstream reaction of the vast majority of the population - just the 2 extremes. If that is you fine.

The desire of conservatives to get rid of Obama is perfectly consistent with our desire to fix the economy and to keep us safe. Those desires are not mutually exclusive, despite your claims...But you didn't say that - you tried to link the vote to the econ./security.

Your are explicitly stating that if I say I want to get rid of Obama, that means I'm not concerned with the economy or national security?? Show me where I said that? As usual, you could not be more wrong. It's precisely because of my valid concerns for the economy and national security, that I say we need to get rid of him

Paul, if I say "Obama has to go", please tell me WHY you therefore conclude that I cannot simultaneously be concerned with the economy or security of our nation? If you feel that way fine, post why (but you didn't just do that you tried to link the walking out of a vote w/the econ. and the security. But don't come up with the example of when some rank and file Dems. walk out on a vote that they think was rushed and political and forget when the Rep. LEADERSHIP said that the most import. thing they can do is get the Pres out of office. And how can you link the walking out of a vote that had nothing to do w/econ. or security with the econ. or national security - nice try.
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"But your constantly pointing out minor thinks that you don't like but don't recognize the Repub. do the same thing "

When did Republicans walk out on a vote? When did Republicans label every single George Bush critic as a racist? Please provide examples?

"Where where you when a reporter kept interupting the Pres.? Where were you when Romney supporters were showing up at Obama speaches and honking car horns"

One reporter acting disrespectful (and he was) is not the same as Congress walking out on the job, and accusing the other side of racism (which is funny given that the other side includes some blacks, but you won't comment on that, I wonder why). That reporter is not elected to represent the best interests of the citizenry. And as for the car honking thing, I don't know what you are referring to. But Bush wasn't always treated respectfully, either.

I'm talking about a large number of United States congressmen, who get paid a ton of money to represent their constituents, refusing to participate in important public policy debates, because they sensed they were getting beat in a perfectly fair fight. If you can provide a recent example of house republicans doing the same thing, I'll admit that neither side has a monopoly on bratty behavior. But if you coulda done that, you woulda done that.

Once again, it's ironic that a man who refers to tea partiers as tea bagging racists feels justified in lecturing me about civil debate. Do it all you want, but we all know that you only do that, because you cannot begin to respond to the merits of my original post.
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