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Old 06-05-2012, 08:35 AM   #1
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What if your parents hadn't worked for sh_t to pay for you?
What if you only had one parent?
What if you were saddled with 80K debt and could not find a job?
You think the unemployed are imposing their unemployment on themselves?

You changed the topic - I was talking about flexible architecture's role in expediting education for a fluid economy. I think it's a good idea.

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Old 06-05-2012, 09:27 AM   #2
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I was talking about flexible architecture's role in expediting education for a fluid economy. I think it's a good idea.
Great idea. In addition I think tax breaks etc. for large companies, who already
have training departments, should be encouraged to re build their companies in
the inner city where young people would have accesss to it's facilities and learn
what business is about. It would accomplish 2 things, encourage students and
make green areas in the blight of the cities.
High school students could rotate through different departments over a period of time to get a feel for what they might want to do.

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Old 06-05-2012, 10:00 AM   #3
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Great idea. In addition I think tax breaks etc. for large companies, who already
have training departments, should be encouraged to re build their companies in
the inner city where young people would have accesss to it's facilities and learn
what business is about. It would accomplish 2 things, encourage students and
make green areas in the blight of the cities.
High school students could rotate through different departments over a period of time to get a feel for what they might want to do.

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:44 PM   #4
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You changed the topic - I was talking about flexible architecture's role in expediting education for a fluid economy. I think it's a good idea.
I think you misunderstood my reply. Instead of colleges building classrooms, there architecture should really be flexible - leverage coop plans and internships. Why learn in a classroom when you can learn in a company actually doing the work? I am throwing an out of the box idea out there.

hundreds of years ago people didnt go to school to learn a craft, they apprenticed. That might be a way to address the issue in your original post

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[QUOTE=Joe;942676]What if your parents hadn't worked for sh_t to pay for you?
What if you only had one parent?
What if you were saddled with 80K debt and could not find a job?
You think the unemployed are imposing their unemployment on themselves?

QUOTE]

to respond - that would be my wife's scenario, all except for the debt. As an immigrant, her dad died when she was 10, her mom raised her living in a major city. Her mom barely spoke english and couldnt assist with college applications or any future planning for her kids. What did she and her brothers do? They barely graduated high school, They worked day jobs that paid for college tution and went to school at night, they graduated. Today? She is very succesful and both her brothers own their own businesses which do very well.
I guess you conclude that they were white and the world welcomed them with open arms.....but they're not. they're chinese. There was no man holding them down, no class barriers, no race barriers and all along no family support. They did it themselves. WHat a great country huh?

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What if your parents hadn't worked for sh_t to pay for you?
What if you only had one parent?
What if you were saddled with 80K debt and could not find a job?
You think the unemployed are imposing their unemployment on themselves?

QUOTE]

to respond - that would be my wife's scenario, all except for the debt. As an immigrant, her dad died when she was 10, her mom raised her living in a major city. Her mom barely spoke english and couldnt assist with college applications or any future planning for her kids. What did she and her brothers do? They barely graduated high school, They worked day jobs that paid for college tution and went to school at night, they graduated. Today? She is very succesful and both her brothers own their own businesses which do very well.
I guess you conclude that they were white and the world welcomed them with open arms.....but they're not. they're chinese. There was no man holding them down, no class barriers, no race barriers and all along no family support. They did it themselves. WHat a great country huh?
There are so many sucess stories like this in almost every family.
Most all our families were poor sometime along the way. In fact I would venture to
say most people born before 1945 in our country grew up poor by today's standards.
We just didn't know we were poor, as long as we had food and clothes on our back.
People made there own good times and found their happiness without having or needing stuff.
In order to get stuff you have to work and sacrafice for it.

Things that were luxeries yesterday suddenly become necessities today, or so people think.
People suceed because they are motivated by family, friends, mentors or $$.
People forget their ancestors who came to America had to leave the security of their homes and family, learn English, become citizens and fit into the American
culture. That is sacrafice.
If you want to work and succeed you will never find another country in the
world easier to do it than here.

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to respond - that would be my wife's scenario, all except for the debt. As an immigrant, her dad died when she was 10, her mom raised her living in a major city. Her mom barely spoke english and couldnt assist with college applications or any future planning for her kids. What did she and her brothers do? They barely graduated high school, They worked day jobs that paid for college tution and went to school at night, they graduated. Today? She is very succesful and both her brothers own their own businesses which do very well.
I guess you conclude that they were white and the world welcomed them with open arms.....but they're not. they're chinese. There was no man holding them down, no class barriers, no race barriers and all along no family support. They did it themselves. WHat a great country huh?[/QUOTE]

Your wife hit a triple.
You were born on third base.

Immigrants are fearless - that's often left out. They leave everything and everyone behind to start again. Very few people are willing to move within the United States, never mind abroad - to work. So what we get as far as Chinese immigrants, are the most ambitious, bold and fearless people, of nation of 1.3 billion people. Chinese immigrants in other words, are the best people in China: they are very resourceful and see much more opportunity in a America than we do. Plus, for the most part, their culture dictates that they don't borrow from banks - they get financing from relatives.

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Old 06-06-2012, 09:46 AM   #8
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Your wife hit a triple.
You were born on third base.

Immigrants are fearless - that's often left out. They leave everything and everyone behind to start again. Very few people are willing to move within the United States, never mind abroad - to work. So what we get as far as Chinese immigrants, are the most ambitious, bold and fearless people, of nation of 1.3 billion people. Chinese immigrants in other words, are the best people in China: they are very resourceful and see much more opportunity in a America than we do. Plus, for the most part, their culture dictates that they don't borrow from banks - they get financing from relatives.
Goes to show the advantage of being "ambitious, bold, and fearless people" who are willing "to work." Without those characteristics, apparently, in a nanny state one must be "born on third base" or allowed to steal home.
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