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Old 04-07-2012, 10:18 AM   #1
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Yes, an unfortunate story from many angles. Questionable product, questionable production, lost jobs, shuttered companies.

Will this be the market voting with their feet? Or will this be mob rule? Or can this be salvaged in some way?

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Old 04-07-2012, 10:29 AM   #2
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funny how some stories take odd twists and turns...

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That email has nothing to do with being prepared or protecting your family...rather it's a lie intended to promote racism and xenophobia.

It's also absurd. With BILLIONS of cell phones circulating the planet the notion terrorists would send burka clad women out to purchase bomb parts in plain sight is ridiculous.

What's really sad about this sort of propaganda is that it works and then crap like this happens...
Beaten Iraqi woman dies in Calif.; threat note left - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com


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Iraqi Hate Crime Murder Probe Focuses on Family | Video - ABC News

Shaima Alawadi’s murder: Hate crime or honor killing? - Salon.com

Shaima Alawadi, Iraqi Woman Beaten To Death, Might Not Be Hate Crime Victim

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ScottW - you want to start that in a different topic? Or stick to this topic?

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ScottW - you want to start that in a different topic? Or stick to this topic?
I'm comfortable drawing the comparison between Hoodys, Pink Slime and Hate Crime and others...all stories fanned by the media and interests promoting an agenda regardless of facts, by the time the facts emerge the damage is done and we're onto the next available crisis to be taken advantage of ...seems to be a pattern...nice to remember occasionally what was alledged and where it actually ends up

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I'm comfortable drawing the comparison between Hoodys, Pink Slime and Hate Crime and others...all stories fanned by the media and interests promoting an agenda regardless of facts, by the time the facts emerge the damage is done and we're onto the next available crisis to be taken advantage of ...seems to be a pattern...nice to remember occasionally what was alledged and where it actually ends up
You're comfortable because it fits a delusional agenda.

Outrage over over-industrialized processes is a natural market force, without which all we'd have would be hormone jacked, antibiotic jacked, processed in China and gassed to preserve color beef.

Agree on the local aspect. The small price premium is certainly worth the long-term benefits which will be easier to sustain as energy costs continue to climb.

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You're comfortable because it fits a delusional agenda.

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that's funny...not very original...but funny


Tom Vilsack serves as the Nation's 30th Secretary of the Agriculture.

As leader of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), Vilsack is working hard to strengthen the American agricultural economy, build vibrant rural communities and secure a stronger future for the American middle class.

In three years at the Department, Vilsack has worked to implement President Obama's agenda to put Americans back to work and create an economy built to last. USDA has supported farmers, ranchers and growers who are enjoying record earnings, provided food assistance to 1 in 4 Americans, conserved our natural resources and helped provide a safe, sufficient and nutritious food supply for the American people.

Secretary Vilsack shares President Obama's commitment to a rural economy that continues to reward hard work and responsibility while growing a strong middle class. To help drive innovation and build thriving economies in rural communities, USDA is promoting job growth and higher incomes through expanded production of renewable energy, outdoor recreational opportunities and development of local and regional food supplies.



Vilsack was particularly vehement in his assertion that if pink slime were not safe, the USDA, which is under his purview, would not approve the product for sale or consumption.


"I can guarantee you that if we felt that this was unsafe, we wouldn’t allow it to be marketed and we wouldn’t make it part of our school lunch program,” said Vilsack.

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Yes, an unfortunate story from many angles. Questionable product, questionable production, lost jobs, shuttered companies.

Will this be the market voting with their feet? Or will this be mob rule? Or can this be salvaged in some way?
I think the awareness is valuable. The issue isn't even really the pink slime as much as it's that we've become dependent on proteins from industrial farming practices that aren't natural. We feed cows grain instead of grass, then jack them up with anti-biotics to keep them from dying as they grow twice as fast.

I remember one time in the late 1980's when we were out hunting pheasants...we pulled off to park into a field with a dozen cows munching on a pile of Fruit Loops about 12 feet high.

While scaling production to meet demand is certainly a challenge, if things were being done properly from the beginning they wouldn't be soaking beef in ammonia to kill e coli...because it wouldn't be there in the first place. Same goes for poultry.

It's interesting when I read threads and people are complaining about 5 buck a pound ground beef versus the 99 cent stuff like it's apples to apples. I'll gladly pay to have something processed from fresh meat on premise that day...and also recognize we're fortunate to be able to afford it.

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