Something to think about when you head to the polls this year

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Probably not...but only because Obama's tenure isn't likely to end in a MASSIVE RECESSION.

Your assertion is so disingenuous I'd have to say you're guilty of outright deception...in other words a liar.

-spence

ohhh...you are really nasty there's still some time for O's tenure to end in a MASSIVE RECESSION....don't give up hope....n' change...n' stuff

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by scottw

don't give up hope....n' change...n' stuff

Nice one, Palin

That $4.28 record under Bush doesn't count? Not that it was his fault, anymore than this is Obama's fault. But, you can't fix stupid.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Nice one, Palin

That $4.28 record under Bush doesn't count? Not that it was his fault, anymore than this is Obama's fault. But, you can't fix stupid.

I'm pretty sure I'm on record as saying that the president isn't the sole determining factor in oil prices although I just pointed out in that poll, he's absolutley held accountable by a majority of Americans as though he were....O is on record as desiring higher gas prices and energy prices in general, has pursued policies which push prices higher and has an Energy Secretary that publically yearned for 8-9 dollar gasoline...it's part of the agenda, if he'd pushed a little harder on some items we'd really be screwed right now... I don't think they care how they get there as long as they get there...his policies in their totality will force prices higher whether it's now or later...slow or fast....another president with a different agenda...not so much... which is why prices returned to reasonable levels under Bush....Obama inherited cheap gas too he has no intention of allowing it to return to reasonable levels...it's not in the agenda


the nastiness is spreading...."pent up anger"?

Financial Times...pretty funny

"In exchange for 48 hours of priceless photo opportunities, Mr Cameron offered to support the US if it released oil reserves to lower fuel prices, even if Britain thinks the move would be a largely futile short-term gesture."

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by scottw

Obama inherited cheap gas too he has no intention of allowing it to return to reasonable levels...it's not in the agenda

Yeah, that whole increased US production and stuff during his term points directly to his conspiracy against low gas prices. I think it is great that almost the entire year, the year before he was elected, gas was $3.50 to $4.28. Prices collapsed at the end of the year, when oil fell to $40 a barrel, (no doing of our own) and a price which was unsustainable. Now the prices are almost as high as where they were 4 years ago under a different president, and according to the Republican nominee, it is Obama's fault... American's who can't effectively analyze multi-variate problems, but rather go with their own "common sense" fall right behind the piper.

By the way... keystone, like Bryan said, would do nothing for gas prices. More scamming by the leaders on the right to sway the minions.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by zimmy

. American's who can't effectively analyze multi-variate problems, but rather go with their own "common sense" fall right behind the piper.

you are too funny

multivariate is one word.....

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by scottw

you are too funny

multivariate is one word.....

Remember that 8year old comment you made before?

It CAN be one word, but it is standard practice and completely acceptable to hyphenate it.

for example:
Scalable Multi-variate Analytics of Seismic and Satellite-based ...vis.pku.edu.cn/research/publication/Vis10_earth-small.pdfYou +1'd this publicly.

or

MATLAB By Examples: Multi-variate Model Fitting using Taylor Series Method

[scottw]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Remember that 8year old comment you made before?

It CAN be one word, but it is standard practice and completely acceptable to hyphenate it.

someone should notify the dictonary

Word not found in the Dictionary and Encyclopedia. Did you mean:
multivariate ?

and WIKIPEDIA

"Multi-variate" does not exist"

I didn't check the Urban Dictinary...check that...I did just for kicks..."multi-variate isn't defined yet"


.were you really talking about "Analytics of Seismic and Satellite-based stuff"? I noticed it's the first thing you could locate on Google .....

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

ohhh...you are really nasty there's still some time for O's tenure to end in a MASSIVE RECESSION....don't give up hope....n' change...n' stuff

Yep, you have nothing to offer.

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Yep, you have nothing to offer.

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

-spence

Rosetta Stone?

[scottw]

Kraut(not unbiased) nails it as usual....wanna talk about the President's dishonesty Spence? ....remembered the quotes just for you

""""""Yes, of course, presidents have no direct control over gas prices. But the American people know something about this president and his disdain for oil. The “fuel of the past,” he contemptuously calls it. To the American worker who doesn’t commute by government motorcade and is getting fleeced every week at the pump, oil seems very much a fuel of the present — and of the foreseeable future.



But the event that drove home the extent of Obama’s antipathy to nearby, abundant, available oil was his veto of the Keystone pipeline. It gave the game away, because the case for Keystone is so obvious and overwhelming. Vetoing it gratuitously prolongs our dependence on outside powers, kills thousands of shovel-ready jobs, forfeits a major strategic resource to China, damages relations with our closest ally, and sends billions of oil dollars to Hugo Chávez, Vladimir Putin, and already obscenely wealthy sheiks.

Obama boasts that on his watch, production is up and imports down. True, but truly deceptive. These increases have occurred in spite of his restrictive policies. They are the result of Clinton- and Bush-era permitting. This has been accompanied by a gold rush of natural-gas production resulting from new fracking technology that has nothing at all to do with Obama."""""""""

Seaweed in Your Gas Tank - Charles Krauthammer - National Review Online

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

Kraut(not unbiased) nails it as usual....wanna talk about the President's dishonesty Spence? ....remembered the quotes just for you

Funny, you can't seem to refute a point nor can you get a highly paid pundit to do it for you.

Obama went on to say...

Here is the truth. If we are going to control our energy future, then we've got to have an all-of-the-above strategy," he said in his speech. "We've got to develop every source of American energy—not just oil and gas, but wind power and solar power, nuclear power, biofuels."

Anyone disagree with this?

Regarding the Keyston XL pipeline, it's far from a no-brainer.

Yes, it will create "shovel ready" jobs...but only for 6-12 months. Most of the steel for the project has already been manufactured...in India.

Transcanada's own research for the US Government indicated the pipeline would actually INCREASE gas prices in the mid-west US and not have any real impact on domestic energy security.

http://www.keystonepipeline-xl.state...pt.pdf#page=99

And perhaps worse, the company has already been bullying landowners to sign easements or be sued to have their land taken under eminent domain.

All the Administration asked was for a new route that wouldn't threaten an environmentally sensitive area. Initially they said it would be impossible...then they agreed to do it.

If anything, Obama isn't playing politics and is evaluating the cost/benefit tradeoff for the Americans involved. You know where that oil will be going? To refineries in the Gulf Cost where it will be EXPORTED.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Funny, you can't seem to refute a point nor can you get a highly paid pundit to do it for you.

Obama went on to say...



Anyone disagree with this?

Regarding the Keyston XL pipeline, it's far from a no-brainer.

Yes, it will create "shovel ready" jobs...but only for 6-12 months. Most of the steel for the project has already been manufactured...in India.

Transcanada's own research for the US Government indicated the pipeline would actually INCREASE gas prices in the mid-west US and not have any real impact on domestic energy security.

http://www.keystonepipeline-xl.state...pt.pdf#page=99

And perhaps worse, the company has already been bullying landowners to sign easements or be sued to have their land taken under eminent domain.

All the Administration asked was for a new route that wouldn't threaten an environmentally sensitive area. Initially they said it would be impossible...then they agreed to do it.

If anything, Obama isn't playing politics and is evaluating the cost/benefit tradeoff for the Americans involved. You know where that oil will be going? To refineries in the Gulf Cost where it will be EXPORTED.

-spence

Bill Clinton wasn't even buying this spin

any time that O starts a sentence with "here is the truth"...you know it's going to be a Whopper


you guys should really be much, much happier and confident