Goin COMMANDO

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

What's that saying "Better to have it and not Need it, than need it and not Have it"

There are limitations to that saying. Limitations like "hey, our country/state/town is deeply in debt so we should be reasonable with our purchases."

On that "need it but not have it bit", I'd like to see a report on how many times in the last 5 years the town *needed* an APC and how many times any police officer *needed* an M14 with military grade head protection - especially in a large city in North Dakota that:

has averaged fewer than two homicides a year since 2005, and there’s not been a single international terrorism prosecution in the last decade.

Two homicides a year in the last 6 years... yeah, that definitely demonstrates a need for a militarized police force.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

There are limitations to that saying. Limitations like "hey, our country/state/town is deeply in debt so we should be reasonable with our purchases."

I was saying it more Toungue in Cheek than anything....I do tend to be a smart ass at time.

Yeah, common sense dictates thats how they should think but, as I said before, its how the governments do budgeting that is the real problem.

If the feds give a town 5 million to the police force and the force this year says that we are good, we only need $500k here's the rest back, now next year the funds come out and the town gets $500k....but they need 2 million....the government says Welll you made do with $500k last year thats all we're giving you this year, sorry.

So the way the towns/states think is Heck, They gave us 5 million we sure as hell are going to spend it on something so they will give us the same next year.

so is it going to be on sno-cone machines or on an APC's?

The government needs to learn to budget on an "As Needed" basis...and they need to learn how to speed the process up.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

The government needs to learn to budget on an "As Needed" basis...and they need to learn how to speed the process up.

what budget?????

Another Grim Milestone: 900 Days of Budget Neglect
October 17th, 2011

Yesterday, America reached another grim milestone that went entirely unreported among the major media outlets. No newspaper ran it as a headline, no cable news network devoted a segment of any show today to it. In fact, if people like Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) didn’t mark these dates, you probably wouldn’t hear about them.

This is the second consecutive year that Senate Democrats have disregarded the legally mandated budget process. In fact, this Sunday will mark the 900th day since Senate Democrats last adopted a formal budget plan as outlined in the Congressional Budget Act. It is a national disgrace.

The Constitution did not give Congress a very lengthy job description and one of its most important tasks is to handle the money it takes from us in taxes. The Republican-led House has done its part but the Senate, led by the hyper-partisan Harry Reid, simply will not pass a bill. This is what Reid said back in May, about 150 days ago.

“There’s no need to have a Democratic budget, in my opinion,” Reid told the Los Angeles Times last week. “It would be foolish for us to do a budget at this stage.”


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Dems won’t pass budget in 2010
By Jared Allen - 06/21/10

House Democrats will not pass a budget blueprint in 2010, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) will confirm in a speech on Tuesday.

But Hoyer will vow to crack down on government spending, saying Democrats will enforce spending limits that are lower than what President Barack Obama has called for.

In the scheduled address to the progressive think tank The Third Way, Hoyer will acknowledge that the lower chamber will do things differently this election year.

“It isn’t possible to debate and pass a realistic, long-term budget until we’ve considered the bipartisan commission’s deficit-reduction plan, which is expected in December,” according to Hoyer’s prepared remarks that were provided to The Hill.

The House has never failed to pass an annual budget resolution since the current budget rules were put into place in 1974. Hoyer this spring noted that the GOP-led Congress didn’t pass a final resolution in 1998, 2004 and 2006.




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House says no to mandating balanced federal budget

Nov. 18, 2011
By JIM ABRAMS, Associated Press

The first House vote in 16 years on making federal deficits unconstitutional came as the separate bipartisan "supercommittee" appeared to be sputtering in its attempt to find at least $1.2 trillion in deficit reductions to head off major automatic cuts. The lead Republican on that panel said members were "painfully, painfully aware" of its Wednesday deadline for action and would work through the weekend.

The House voted 261-165 in favor of the measure to require annual balanced budgets, but that was 23 short of the two-thirds majority needed to advance a constitutional amendment.

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December 14, 2011 Senate rejects two balanced budget amendments

(AP) The Senate has defeated two proposals to amend the Constitution to compel Congress to come up with a balanced budget every year. The votes, coming after House rejection of a balanced budget amendment last month, effectively shuts off the constitutional approach for forcing Congress to live within its means.

With Democrats solidly against the amendments, the outcome was never in doubt. But the Senate was required to stage the votes under last summer's deal for raising the government's debt limit in exchange for $2 trillion in future spending cuts.

Senate rejects two balanced budget amendments - CBS News