Gingrich: Most illegal immigrants should leave, reapply to become citizens

[striperman36]

I have not taste for Newt, he's had his time and failed.

Go back to teaching and stealing more monyah from us folks

[scottw]

Gingrich: Most illegal immigrants should leave, reapply to become citizens


I'm trying to figure out what the problem is here

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by scottw

Gingrich: Most illegal immigrants should leave, reapply to become citizens


I'm trying to figure out what the problem is here

Thanks ScottW, I agree

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by striperman36

I have not taste Newt, he's had his time and failed.

Go back to teaching and stealing more monyah from us folks

"Newt, he's had his time and failed."

He failed? At what? He led the Republlican revolution of 1994, which was a success. He cut taxes, vut spending, balanced the budget 4 years in a row, and got millions of people off the welfare rolls and back in the workforce. Most rational economists credit the Clinton/Gingrich economic policies with the incredible economic growth that followed. And those policies were NOT the natural instincts of Bill Clinton...those are conservative policies that Gingrich forced Clinton to adopt, and they were a smashing success. So how did he fail?

"Go back to teaching and stealing more monyah from us folks"

How has he stolen anything from anyone? I'd be interested to hear about that.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Go back to teaching and stealing more monyah from us folks"

How has he stolen anything from anyone? I'd be interested to hear about that.

Lobbying money from Freddie Mac? 1.6 million? to do what?

Never believed in his ability, never will.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by striperman36

Lobbying money from Freddie Mac? 1.6 million? to do what?

Never believed in his ability, never will.

You ask the question, "to do what"? The fact that you asked that question means that you do not know what he did, but yet you make the Evil Kineval-type leap to assume that he "stole" that money. I asked you why you think he stole the money, and the best you could do was admit you have no idea what he did, so you assume he stole it. Does that sound rational?

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You ask the question, "to do what"? The fact that you asked that question means that you do not know what he did, but yet you make the Evil Kineval-type leap to assume that he "stole" that money. I asked you why you think he stole the money, and the best you could do was admit you have no idea what he did, so you assume he stole it. Does that sound rational?

He can't even say what he did. look it up, evil one.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by striperman36

He can't even say what he did. look it up, evil one.

Gingrich said he advised them but didn't lobby. As far as I know, there is zero evidence to refute that.

You're the one asserting Gingrich stole $1.6 million. Common sense suggests that the burden of proof is on you to support your claim, not on me to refute it. Sorry that I pointed out that you made a baseless accusation, but it's not my fault you're in that habit.

[spence]

Originally Posted by striperman36

He can't even say what he did. look it up, evil one.

No he did. Newt states clearly that he identified all the structural deficiencies in the organization and that had they only listened to him everything would have been OK.

Of course, Freddie says that's a bunch of horse #^&#^&#^&#^&.

I know if I paid someone 1.6 Million dollars for advice I'd at least expect some written report. Hell even a PPT should suffice.

What did he exactly do again?

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

No he did. Newt states clearly that he identified all the structural deficiencies in the organization and that had they only listened to him everything would have been OK.

Of course, Freddie says that's a bunch of horse #^&#^&#^&#^&.


-spence

if Freddie said it...must be true


Freddie Mac Seeks $6 Billion Bailout After Worst Quarterly Loss This Year

11/3/11

Mortgage finance giant Freddie Mac said on Thursday it will seek an additional $6 billion from U.S. taxpayers following its worst quarterly loss this year.

Freddie Mac has now drawn $72.2 billion from the government since it was taken over at the height of the financial crisis in September 2008.

[Jim in CT]

Here's what a former President says about Gingrich...

"Gingrich is emerging because “he thinks about this stuff all the time.”

“He’s articulate and he tries to think of a conservative version of an idea that will solve a legitimate problem,”

I watched the national security debate last night. And Newt said two things that would make an independent voter say, ‘Well, I gotta consider that.’

"I think he’s doing well just because he’s thinking, and people are hungry for ideas that make some sense.”

Bill Clinton Praises Old Foe Newt Gingrich



These praises for Gingrich came from Bill Clinton, whose presidency was saved when Gingrich forced Clinton to tack to the right, and the economic results speak for themselves. By any economic measure (unemployment, GDP, tax revenue base, drops in welfare),those policies were a smashing success.

Gingrich grew the economy by reducing spending and taxes. Obama has added trillions to our debt, and what do we have to show for it? Higher unemployment than what he started with. All his worshippers like Spence can do, is say that even though things are worse now than when he took office, that things would be EVEN WORSE had he not done what he did. You cannot prove the validity of something that didi nothappen, so this is a convenient strategy for the liberals.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

He failed? At what? He led the Republlican revolution of 1994, which was a success. He cut taxes, vut spending, balanced the budget 4 years in a row, and got millions of people off the welfare rolls and back in the workforce.

You're talking about him like he was POTUS.

Most rational economists credit the Clinton/Gingrich economic policies with the incredible economic growth that followed. And those policies were NOT the natural instincts of Bill Clinton...those are conservative policies that Gingrich forced Clinton to adopt, and they were a smashing success. So how did he fail?

Any rational economist would say the economic growth of the 1990's was due primarily to a technology bubble, without which, Clinton wouldn't have been in a position to negotiate on the economic elements of the Contract with America.

So, you've basically got it backwards.

Newt failed because he stopped leading on what got the 1994 Republican House majority elected. Instead we had the government shutdown, ethics issues and a party completely fixated on impeaching Clinton. The voters wanted non of it and the results were in the ballot box.

His resignation was a clear signal that his effectiveness had run out.

-spence