all done

[justplugit]

Romney, same old same old politician through and through.

Ya don't get what ya see with this guy.

[RIJIMMY]

I had to bump this thread.
Here we are 4 months later. The best repub party can come up with is

- an rich stiff who pays 15% in taxes and invests funds offshore (I dont fault him for this but come on! The dems will cream him on this!!!) The guy has no charisma.

or
- a disgraced speaker of the house who is known to have a temper, cheats on his wifes and has a different idea every minute!

Seriously? This is the best this country can do? All this repub momentum via the tea party, all the anti obama sentiment and this is what you got? What a joke.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I had to bump this thread.
Here we are 4 months later. The best repub party can come up with is

- an rich stiff who pays 15% in taxes and invests funds offshore (I dont fault him for this but come on! The dems will cream him on this!!!) The guy has no charisma.

or
- a disgraced speaker of the house who is known to have a temper, cheats on his wifes and has a different idea every minute!

Seriously? This is the best this country can do? All this repub momentum via the tea party, all the anti obama sentiment and this is what you got? What a joke.

Agreed. It's all a joke.. On all sides
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Agreed. It's all a joke.. On all sides
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

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[scottw]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I had to bump this thread.
Here we are 4 months later. The best repub party can come up with is

- an rich stiff who pays 15% in taxes and invests funds offshore (I dont fault him for this but come on! The dems will cream him on this!!!) The guy has no charisma.

or
- a disgraced speaker of the house who is known to have a temper, cheats on his wifes and has a different idea every minute!

Seriously? This is the best this country can do? All this repub momentum via the tea party, all the anti obama sentiment and this is what you got? What a joke.

I'm not a big Romney defender but his entire income is investment income, he's paying the going rate for capital gains, I also think a lot of Americans have investments "off shore" in foreign investment through their portfolios so I hope you don't fault him, he says he getting no unusual tax advantages from those investments and all of his investments have been in a blind trust since 2002/3....I guess you just fault him for being a rich stiff with no charisma?

speaking of which...Jonh F. Kerry and his Sugar Mommy were paying 12% in taxes......didn't stop all of the democrats for voting for him now did it???? He thought he'd won...... is he complaining that the rich need to pay more? cause I think we've learned that he's profieted nicely thanks to Congress exempting themselves from the insider trading laws.....shame.........I think he's still bitter...along with Gore...what's he worth now and how exactly has he earned it??? and I wonder what he's paying in taxes?...I know he wasn't big on charitable contributions...well, except with other peoples money...

at least Rom can tell you how he earned the money that is producing his investment income

why don't we refer to Clinton as....disgraced former President of the United States who is known to lie, cheats perpetually on his wife and takes credit for ideas that he co-opted from someone else out of political expedience? good think he's not running again?...right???...probably never get elected...although...I think we knew all or most of those things about him before he was elected...twice

not a Newt defender either but I think it's just hilarious after John Edwards, Clinton, the Kennedys, Client #9 and on and on....did we ever get an in-depth interview with Teddy's ex...right before a campaign...oh the stories she might have told...we did get Newt's mom...remember that...with Connie Chung I think?

[Rob Rockcrawler]

This election is going to be a tough decision for me. Ive voted for both parties in the past. I want some change but don't see it happening. The congress is so whacked right now i cant see anything meaningful get done.
The two choices we really have are Newt, Mitt or the big O. Newt is a really smart guy and has some good ideas but the pandering to the Right makes me swallow vomit every time i hear it. Mitt does not show confidence, he looks nervous to me. I have a hard time believing what he says. He doesn't just pander to the right, he just panders. He seems like a moderate at times that takes huge turns to the right but then comes back to the middle. As a business man i dont really know if he was that successful or not. Running the Olympics is running a country, its not even in the same ball park, it aint even the same game.
Ron Paul is a whack who i respect. I like a lot of his ideas, but if they were all put in place i shutter to think what would actually happen. Isolationism isn't a bad thing. I think he is the only one who think Israel should be on their own.
On the social issues... Do they really matter at all right now? Isn't getting the economy back on track more important than abortion etc. I didn't lose my guns when Obama got elected like it was warned by so many. Gay marriage, whatever... The only issue i really care about and its not really a social issue is Social Security. I have been paying into it for a long time, and damn it i better get mine when i retire and i don't mean when i am 87 years old.
When it comes to fidelity in office i really don't care. Clinton did a good job and had his on the side, Newt on the side, JFK, lots on the side. When you are a person in power no matter what the job the opportunities with women present themselves. I don't care if you take advantage of the situation, it shouldn't come out in public. If it does just admit to it. Its not usually that big of a deal unless you are John Edwards, he really botched it up.

I usually stay out of the political forum but im bored and bitter that im not at the rod building class right now. Friggin snow...

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Rob Rockcrawler

This election is going to be a tough decision for me. Ive voted for both parties in the past. I want some change but don't see it happening. there is definitely change happening

The congress is so whacked right now i cant see anything meaningful get done. this is not always a bad thing and the founders intended it this way for a reason

The two choices we really have are Newt, Mitt or the big O. Newt is a really smart guy and has some good ideas but the pandering to the Right makes me swallow vomit every time i hear it. what do you consider "pandering to the right"?...just curious...my problem with Newt is that he displays a lot of the narcissistic qualities that we see in the current occupant...people like that shouldn't be trusted with a lot of power...they never think they are wrong

Mitt does not show confidence, he looks nervous to me. I have a hard time believing what he says. He doesn't just pander to the right, he just panders. show me a politician that doesn't "pander"

He seems like a moderate at times that takes huge turns to the right but then comes back to the middle. As a business man i dont really know if he was that successful or not. Running the Olympics is running a country, its not even in the same ball park, it aint even the same game. tougher than "community organizing" though


Ron Paul is a whack who i respect. I like a lot of his ideas, but if they were all put in place i shutter to think what would actually happen. so he's a whack with good ideas and you respect him but you shutter to think what would happen....I'm lost Isolationism isn't a bad thing. I think he is the only one who think Israel should be on their own. well, probably also Iran, Syria, Egypt etc...

On the social issues... Do they really matter at all right now? or ever? Isn't getting the economy back on track more important than abortion etc. gotta fund it somehow

I didn't lose my guns when Obama got elected like it was warned by so many. Gay marriage, whatever... I think his position on this is still "evolving"...that's how the White House describes it...but it's fine if you are him.... The only issue i really care about and its not really a social issue is Social Security. I have been paying into it for a long time, and damn it i better get mine when i retire and i don't mean when i am 87 years old.you will not be getting "YOURS" ...you will be getting the sum of several of your kids and grandkids contributions...you should thank them

When it comes to fidelity in office i really don't care. Clinton did a good job and had his on the side, Newt on the side, JFK, lots on the side. When you are a person in power no matter what the job the opportunities with women present themselves. I don't care if you take advantage of the situation, it shouldn't come out in public. If it does just admit to it. Its not usually that big of a deal unless you are John Edwards, he really botched it up. and his hair never moved throughout the entire ordeal

I usually stay out of the political forum but im bored and bitter that im not at the rod building class right now. Friggin snow...

you are right....it's a tough one

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by scottw

I'm not a big Romney defender but his entire income is investment income, he's paying the going rate for capital gains, I also think a lot of Americans have investments "off shore" in foreign investment through their portfolios so I hope you don't fault him, he says he getting no unusual tax advantages from those investments and all of his investments have been in a blind trust since 2002/3....I guess you just fault him for being a rich stiff with no charisma?

scott - I dont fault him at all. Based on the current economic climate, I highly doubt his electability given the % of income tax he pays. He will get killed in the media.

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

scott - I dont fault him at all. Based on the current economic climate, I highly doubt his electability given the % of income tax he pays. He will get killed in the media.

It will kill him if he continues to act like he's hiding something.

There was an interesting article the other day about Romney's taxes...that what he's hiding is how he's used shifting IRA's to get around the IRS's yearly contribution limits. Don't know if it's BS or not.

What I do find is that Romney's difficulty in answering the tax question is really, really odd. He's got an army of highly paid advisers that clearly aren't doing their job.

If he did have a tax issue you'd think he would have fixed it when he ran 4 years ago.

-spence

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by spence

It will kill him if he continues to act like he's hiding something.
There was an interesting article the other day about Romney's taxes...that what he's hiding is how he's used shifting IRA's to get around the IRS's yearly contribution limits. Don't know if it's BS or not.
What I do find is that Romney's difficulty in answering the tax question is really, really odd. He's got an army of highly paid advisers that clearly aren't doing their job.

If he did have a tax issue you'd think he would have fixed it when he ran 4 years ago.
-spence

That, and I think if he really wanted to shut the door, he'd release them back a few years. to me, it makes it seem he doesn't want it known how much he earned in previous years...

It sounds like Newt is finally getting around to releasing his FMae/FMac contract and documents

I don't think his net worth bothers people, I have to agree with Jeff for once... it is more than he wasn't prepared to deal with this!

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I don't think his net worth bothers people, I have to agree with Jeff for once... it is more than he wasn't prepared to deal with this!

It will matter to those who are going to vote for Obama regardless which means it doesn't really matter.

-spence