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Old 09-19-2011, 09:33 AM   #1
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This is a plan to pay for an increase in spending not to balance the budget.
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Old 09-19-2011, 10:12 AM   #2
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Sure is. This doesn't fix anything. It's the same ol bloated bag of poo it was before it was enacted then where's it get us...nowhere

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Old 09-19-2011, 01:26 PM   #3
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Polls have consistently shown that Americans strongly support tax increases to reduce the deficit.

Even among Republicans 74% appear to believe some tax increases are necessary.

On Deficit, Americans Prefer Spending Cuts; Open to Tax Hikes

While both parties are going to have to get real about spending, the GOP leadership is out of step with the American people.

-spence
Spence - from your link: 50% approve only custs or of some tax increases with mostly with spending cuts.
Only 11% support by mostly tax increases. Shape the Narrative



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No matter how sorry JohnR and Spence feel about this guy, he's as dumb as a friggin turnip.

He really thinks this is real? This is his plan?

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Not sure where you get me supporting him but I would rather see honest solutions that work regardless of who proposes.

Speaking of honest solutions, this is the cornerstone of his deficit program? Additional taxes + 1 trillion that was going to go away anyway is crappy math.

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Old 09-19-2011, 02:43 PM   #4
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Spence - from your link: 50% approve only custs or of some tax increases with mostly with spending cuts.
Only 11% support by mostly tax increases. Shape the Narrative
No, the poll supports my statement as written.

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Old 09-19-2011, 05:54 PM   #5
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No, the poll supports my statement as written.

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If we are to be governed by mob opinion what is the future of individual liberty? On the other hand, the administration certainly doesn't care about being out of step with the American public on abortion or the so-called health care bill.
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Old 09-19-2011, 06:27 PM   #6
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If we are to be governed by mob opinion what is the future of individual liberty? On the other hand, the administration certainly doesn't care about being out of step with the American public on abortion or the so-called health care bill.
Are they?

On abortion I think the public consistently supports the right to an abortion with some divergence on restrictions.

Support for the Health Care Bill at the time of passage was over 50%. That Obama made many mistakes when promoting it doesn't change the fact that the public supports reform.

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Are they?

Are you answering my question with a question? Before you respond to my question about your question to my original question, I will actually answer your question--using polls to decide on legislation would be forcing majority "opinion" on the rights of the minorities. Unequal taxation on a minority of individuals simply because a majority likes the idea is not principled, Constitutionally protected due process or equal representation. It would be governing by mob opinion at the expense of individual rights.

On abortion I think the public consistently supports the right to an abortion with some divergence on restrictions.

Public opinion is solidly against partial birth abortion.

Support for the Health Care Bill at the time of passage was over 50%. That Obama made many mistakes when promoting it doesn't change the fact that the public supports reform.

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I wasn't talking about reform. Was that not clear when I said "so-called health care bill?" Perhaps I am informed incorrectly on the polls, but I thought there was consistent majority opposition to the bill. I apologize if I was wrong. The point was that polls though they might be useful to someone running for office, are not a way to govern.
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:03 AM   #8
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Support for the Health Care Bill at the time of passage was over 50%.

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At the time of passage when no one knew what was in the 3000 pages.

What are the current polls showing?

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Old 09-20-2011, 08:48 AM   #9
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Support for the Health Care Bill at the time of passage was over 50%. -spence
that is incorrect.

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