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Old 09-01-2011, 04:58 AM   #1
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Your head would freaking explode if Federal funds were being used to build a Catholic church. STFU

In January 2001, President Bush created, via Executive Order, the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. Since then, Centers for Faith-Based and Community Initiatives were established at five federal agencies, assistance and guidebooks were provided to religious groups to help them to apply for federal funds, and websites were created for speedy access to applications.


DERP DERP PFFFTTHTUYTHT DERP

Billion dollars+ goes from the gov to religion per year.

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Old 09-01-2011, 06:12 AM   #2
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In January 2001, President Bush created, via Executive Order, the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives.

DERP DERP PFFFTTHTUYTHT DERP

derp?http://usliberals.about.com/od/faithinpubliclife/a/Funds_Faith2.htm

Billion dollars+ goes from the gov to religion per year.
to build churches, mosques and synagogues?

"Should faith-based organizations be permitted by law to compete to administer government programs on the same basis as all other nonprofit organizations?"

The order also directs federal agencies they can no longer refuse to pay private contractors who display religious icons, such as crosses or menorahs on their jobs sites."If a charity is helping the needy, it should not matter if there is a rabbi on the board, or a cross or a crescent on the wall, or a religious commitment in the charter," said Bush.

The order also directs the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to revise its policy on emergency relief so that religious nonprofit groups can qualify for assistance after disasters like hurricanes and earthquakes.

The order does, however, restate existing government policy preventing religious organizations using federal funds from preaching, or "proselytizing" a particular faith, worshiping or providing religious instruction.
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this Mosque project is going the way of all Obama backed projects...

August 7, 2011
New Strategy For Ground Zero Mosque
By JanSuzanne Krasner

The Park51 project for a 15-story mosque/community center at Ground Zero, led by developer Sharif El-Gamal and Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, has dwindled down to a much smaller vision, a four or five-story 'PrayerSpace' and community center. This may be a far cry from their original plan, but many are bewildered as to why they are still moving ahead with any planned mosque at this site, given the tremendous negative opinion most Americans have of its location.

Sharif El-Gamal believes in his vision and he is committed to its location at Ground Zero. He admits that the introduction of his idea to the general public was "backwards" and now he is "going back to basics." He believes that he is acquiescing to the community's desire for the building not to tower over Ground Zero and states: "If the community only wants four or five floors, it's going to be four or five floors." This new shorter version will still require El-Gamal to raise about $10 million. He believes that depending on the community board's recommendations could take as much as five years before there are any changes to the Burlington Coat Factory building site.

Meanwhile, in spite of El-Gamal's insistence that he'd like to work with the community, the chairperson of the Community Board, Julie Menin, said that he has not responded to several of her requests to meet to discuss the plans that they would like to see implemented at 45-51 Park Place. Although the community board is not as interested in the blueprints of the building, they do want to have input into the public activities the center will offer. Menin commented: "A tremendous number of young families need services, like classes, recreation and athletic centers."

Since El-Gamal's purchase of this property last year (for $4.85 million in cash) this unpopular and contentious project has undergone several important developments as a result of pressure from the neighborhood community and the American public. El-Gamal has had trouble raising the necessary $150 million to build the original planned Park51, previously known as the 'Cordoba House' Mosque/Community Center at the site that is only two blocks from Ground Zero.

Back in early January, 2011 Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and El-Gamal cut off their business ties. Rauf had taken on a greater quest, that of launching a global movement to fight misunderstanding of Islam and improve relations between people of different faiths and cultures. By late January the Park51 Group selected NYC Imam Abdullah Adhami as its senior advisor and one of several Imams who would eventually be picked to coordinate religious services in the mosque.

Americans have been able to witness the slow unraveling of a cover up by the Park51 Group to hide the radical intent of their planned Mosque. Feisal Abdul Rauf, the son of a contemporary of* the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, claims to be a moderate. Through the hard work of Pamela Geller's organization 'Stop Islamitization of America' (SIOA), and other investigative journalists, Feisal was exposed for what he truly is, a Islamic extremist and NJ slum landlord. So off he went on greater conquests.

Then the non-profit Park51 Group selected Imam Adhami, a NYC Imam who was then heard in one of his sermons to call for 'Sharia Law;' who posted his opinion on a website that people with "homosexual feelings are the result of some form of violent emotional or sexual abuse at some point in their life;" and who was also proven to have links to Anti-American Imam Al-Hajj Talib Abdur-Rashid and terror supporter Imam Siraj Wahhaj. By early February Adhami quit.

10 million...so he only wants the tax payers to pay for half

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Old 09-01-2011, 06:28 AM   #3
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10 million...so he only wants the tax payers to pay for half
If bobby has to find 10 apples for his dad to give him 5 more, what percentage is his dad going to give him?

Or is that too complex of math for you?

Churches can also apply for grants under 501c3 just like any non-profit organization.

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If bobby has to find 10 apples for his dad to give him 5 more, what percentage is his dad going to give him?

Or is that too complex of math for you?

Churches can also apply for grants under 501c3 just like any non-profit organization.
last time I checked 5 is half of 10

This new shorter version will still require El-Gamal to raise about $10 million

has applied for a $5 million grant of federal funds
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last time I checked 5 is half of 10

This new shorter version will still require El-Gamal to raise about $10 million

has applied for a $5 million grant of federal funds
raise ten million AND apply for 5 million in grants.

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raise ten million AND apply for 5 million in grants.

derp derp a derp durrrr

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ohhhh...I see....this is Obama math...he needs 10 million to build the thing....he will need to raise the 10 million AND he's going to apply for 5 million in federal grant too..... for a total of 15 million......which is 5 million more than he actually needs but who cares when it's Obama Money


seems to make more sense that he's applying for 5 million so he only needs to come up with "raise" 5 million for the total of 10 million needed....but you never know

should ANY Federal Funding be used to build this thing?

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Old 09-01-2011, 07:37 AM   #7
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Whatch the week long Nat Geo series on 9/11.

How soon we forget.

Then come back and see if you still feel the same way
about wether the Mosque application should even
be opened.

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