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spence · 08-06-2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman

Damn Bush!!!

Congress more than anything. Your Tea Party infusion has resulted in the lowest congressional ratings ever.

Perhaps we can pray our credit rating back

-spence

buckman · 08-06-2011, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

Congress more than anything. Your Tea Party infusion has resulted in the lowest congressional ratings ever.

Perhaps we can pray our credit rating back

-spence

So your blaming the tea party?? unfriggin real Spence. According to you they are a bunch of powerless fringe right nut jobs.

RIROCKHOUND · 08-06-2011, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman

So your blaming the tea party?? unfriggin real Spence. According to you they are a bunch of powerless fringe right nut jobs.

No.
I blame the stupid infighting and lack of anything getting done ON BOTH SIDES.

Out of Afganastan, Out of Irag, End the bush tax rates and things would be a lot rosier IMHO.

neither side has the balls to do that.

BigFish · 08-06-2011, 09:24 AM

The terrorists are winning.......in case nobody has noticed? Their 911 shenanigans has driven this country to financial ruin!!! Their attack went beyond taking down the towers and killing 3000 people....they have managed to change the way we live.....and are slowly draining our financial resources?!?!?!?? We just keep molly coddling these middle eastern countries though.....Kuwait....what have you done for us lately????? We are trying to free Iraq??? Hows that going??? We got Bin Laden so why the "F" are we not out of Afghanistan yet!?!?!?!?! ITS TIME TO START TAKING CARE OF THOSE WHO ARE US CITIZENS!!!!

striperman36 · 08-06-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

The terrorists are winning.......in case nobody has noticed? Their 911 shenanigans has driven this country to financial ruin!!! Their attack went beyond taking down the towers and killing 3000 people....they have managed to change the way we live.....and are slowly draining our financial resources?!?!?!?? We just keep molly coddling these middle eastern countries though.....Kuwait....what have you done for us lately????? We are trying to free Iraq??? Hows that going??? We got Bin Laden so why the "F" are we not out of Afghanistan yet!?!?!?!?! ITS TIME TO START TAKING CARE OF THOSE WHO ARE US CITIZENS!!!!

Isn't that what Reagan did to the USSR?
So true Larry.

Jim in CT · 08-06-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

The terrorists are winning.......in case nobody has noticed? Their 911 shenanigans has driven this country to financial ruin!!! Their attack went beyond taking down the towers and killing 3000 people....they have managed to change the way we live.....and are slowly draining our financial resources?!?!?!?? We just keep molly coddling these middle eastern countries though.....Kuwait....what have you done for us lately????? We are trying to free Iraq??? Hows that going??? We got Bin Laden so why the "F" are we not out of Afghanistan yet!?!?!?!?! ITS TIME TO START TAKING CARE OF THOSE WHO ARE US CITIZENS!!!!

"Their 911 shenanigans has driven this country to financial ruin!!!"

Wrong. Reckless, stupid spending is leading us to ruin. An Addiction to welfare and entitlements are leading us to financial ruin.

"We are trying to free Iraq??? Hows that going???"

It's going spectacularly well, in fact. Iraq is now a pro-western democracy (though still fledgling). Those people are way better off now, than they were before we stepped in. I'm not necessarily saying it was worth the price we paid, but the fact is, Iraq is the closest thing to a free democracy that there is in that region. Bush speculated the once democracy took hold in Iraq that it would "spread like pollen", and all the protests in neighboring countries seem to suggest he was exactly right on that score.

BigFish · 08-06-2011, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Their 911 shenanigans has driven this country to financial ruin!!!"

Wrong. Reckless, stupid spending is leading us to ruin. An Addiction to welfare and entitlements are leading us to financial ruin.

"We are trying to free Iraq??? Hows that going???"

It's going spectacularly well, in fact. Iraq is now a pro-western democracy (though still fledgling). Those people are way better off now, than they were before we stepped in. I'm not necessarily saying it was worth the price we paid, but the fact is, Iraq is the closest thing to a free democracy that there is in that region. Bush speculated the once democracy took hold in Iraq that it would "spread like pollen", and all the protests in neighboring countries seem to suggest he was exactly right on that score.

If anyone here does not believe that 911 has cost the US untold TRILLIONS of dollars then you are a fool. We are running 2 different wars as a result....lives lost, dollars pissed away and YES....all because 911 happened....the rest is a drop in the bucket!

Once we "withdraw" from Iraq....they will soon resume their old ways and fall back into the way things used to be....do not kid yourself!

PS-Homeland Security ring a bell???? Trillions spent right there on measures to ensure our security....if thats at all possible.

scottw · 08-06-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

End the bush tax rates and things would be a lot rosier IMHO.

yeah...raising taxes as we slip into a double dip would be just brilliant

RIROCKHOUND · 08-06-2011, 09:43 AM

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yeah...raising taxes as we slip into a double dip would be just brilliant

Simpson Bowles.
Cuts and some increases in revenue are NEEDED.

spence · 08-06-2011, 09:46 AM

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Simpson Bowles.
Cuts and some increases in revenue are NEEDED.

Simpson is a liberal uncle#^&#^&#^&#^&er.

-spence

scottw · 08-06-2011, 09:53 AM

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Simpson Bowles.
Cuts and some increases in revenue are NEEDED.

Obama's budget proposal earlier in the year told us what he thought of Simpson Bowles

the best way to "some increases in revenue" is to grow the economy....not increase taxes in an already bad economy....increased taxes and regulation inhibit economic growth...I know that these are new concepts...

buckman · 08-06-2011, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

No.
I blame the stupid infighting and lack of anything getting done ON BOTH SIDES.

Out of Afganastan, Out of Irag, End the bush tax rates and things would be a lot rosier IMHO.

neither side has the balls to do that.

Hmmmm... you forgot Lybia and the cost of Obama care

RIROCKHOUND · 08-06-2011, 11:01 AM

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Hmmmm... you forgot Lybia and the cost of Obama care

No, I didn't. I'm not sure what they can do w/ Lybia right now. They are in, I didn't want them to be, but now what?

buckman · 08-06-2011, 03:16 PM

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No, I didn't. I'm not sure what they can do w/ Lybia right now. They are in, I didn't want them to be, but now what?

How about the old stand by?? Surge baby

spence · 08-06-2011, 09:42 AM

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So your blaming the tea party?? unfriggin real Spence. According to you they are a bunch of powerless fringe right nut jobs.

I never said they were powerless. And yes, a lot of the blame should go to the Tea Party and an intolerant position that made it impossible for the House Speaker to do his job.

Boehner and Obama had a deal, they blew it up. The result is a credit downgrade that will further hut the economy.

Unfriggin real is right.

-spence

scottw · 08-06-2011, 08:59 AM

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Congress more than anything. Your Tea Party infusion has resulted in the lowest congressional ratings ever.

Perhaps we can pray our credit rating back

-spence

really?

July 16, 2008

Congressional Approval Hits Record-Low

Congress' job approval rating has dropped five percentage points over the past month, from 19% in June to 14% in July, making the current reading the lowest congressional job approval rating in the 34-year Gallup Poll history of asking the question. The previous low was 18%, last reached in May.

Huffington Post 8/4/11
Strictly speaking, these new results are not the "lowest ever" for Congress, but they come close. Congressional approval as measured by a half dozen or more media polls has been trending downward since 2009, and also hit a similar low in the second half of 2008. Gallup found congressional approval as low as 14 percent in March 2010 and the CBS/New York Times poll tracked approval as low as 14 percent in the same month and at 12 percent in October 2008.

spence · 08-06-2011, 09:45 AM

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really?

You can't compare results from different polls.

Here's a more interesting look.

Worst. Congress. Ever. - By Norman Ornstein | Foreign Policy

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And after the combative and exhaustive debt debate, it appears the American public agrees with him. Per a brand-new New York Times/CBS poll, 82% now disapprove of Congress’ job, which is a record high in that poll. A CNN poll also had Congress’ disapproval at an all-time high of 84%. Here are more numbers from the NYT/CBS survey: 72% disapproved how congressional Republican handled the debt negotiations, while 66% said that of congressional Dems and 47% said that of Obama; the Tea Party’s fav/unfav is now 20%-40%, compared with 26%-29% back in April; and by a margin of greater than 2-to-1, respondents said creating jobs should be a higher priority than spending cuts. The best news for Obama this entire week? His job approval (48%-47%) remains relatively unchanged. By comparison, however, House Speaker John Boehner’s disapproval rating has sky-rocketed to 57%.

First Read - First Thoughts: Better than expected

scottw · 08-06-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

You can't compare results from different polls.

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right..just stick to the MSNBC<NYT< CNN< CBS polls

you said...

"Your Tea Party infusion has resulted in the lowest congressional ratings ever."

not true....as usual

spence · 08-06-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw

right..just stick to the MSNBC<NYT< CNN< CBS polls

No, it means if you want to compare numbers make sure they were captured in a consistent manner. Not rocket science.

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"Your Tea Party infusion has resulted in the lowest congressional ratings ever."

not true....as usual

Read the article, it's interesting.

-spence

scottw · 08-06-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

No, it means if you want to compare numbers make sure they were captured in a consistent manner. Not rocket science.

Read the article, it's interesting.

-spence

why would I bother to read crap that you link from biased sources to expound on another of your demonstrably false statements ?