Thank You Tea Party

[spence]

It was pretty impressive to see the Tea Party threaten the House leader with the spectre of default. Hell, they pretty much terrorized...oh great, now you just made me do it as well...

What's pathetic is how little they really gained. The can has been kicked down the road and the tax fight is not settled. The politicians think they have scored a win but the economists are saying the spending cuts could do more harm than good. Had we had a productive bi-partisan bill the benefits could have been much larger...

I think we may see the GOP distance themselves from the Tea Party in the run up to the 2012 election.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

It was pretty impressive to see the Tea Party threaten the House leader with the spectre of default. Hell, they pretty much terrorized...oh great, now you just made me do it as well...

What's pathetic is how little they really gained. The can has been kicked down the road and the tax fight is not settled. The politicians think they have scored a win but the economists are saying the spending cuts could do more harm than good. Had we had a productive bi-partisan bill the benefits could have been much larger...

I think we may see the GOP distance themselves from the Tea Party in the run up to the 2012 election.

-spence

what is pathetic is that you continue to try to make a point and cite "economists" as some sort of validity for your statements...the people that you support have absolutely no intention of reducing the size, scope or cost of government with the possible exception of the military....if we are downgraded the reason is debt....debt is not solved by raising taxes, the only way to avoid accumulating more debt is to reduce the amount of current spending ...the people that you suport view raised taxes as new opportunities for increased spending....raising the debt ceiling, raising taxes(PARTICULARLY IN A DISMAL ECONOMY) and citing some phony "cuts" in an environment of baseline budgeting is no way to become fiscally responsible....
the tea party terrorists succeeded in making cuts the main focus of the debate rather than simply allowing Washington to raise the country's debt and tack on some new taxes to try to keep up with the increased spending....given the road that you, those that you support would like to take us down and the scary possibilities had the democrats actually held the house last time around...it might be proper to ask, WHO exactly is intent on blowing things up??????

Are the democrats "-----ists" for ramming Obamacare up the nation's backside? Are teachers union members terrorists when they strike at the start of the school year, are nurse's union members terrorists when they walk out of a hospital on strike? municipal/transit union members terrorists when they shut down garbage collection and transportation ?

is this "terrorizing"???

"I cannot guarantee that those checks(SOCIAL SECURITY) go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it," Mr. Obama said in an interview with CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley.

and why Spence, would there be no money in the coffers to send out the checks ?? Didn't you tell us that there is plenty of money in the "Social Security Trust Fund" to continue to pay out SS, even one round of checks ??????

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

It was pretty impressive to see the Tea Party threaten the House leader with the spectre of default. Hell, they pretty much terrorized...oh great, now you just made me do it as well...

What's pathetic is how little they really gained. The can has been kicked down the road and the tax fight is not settled. The politicians think they have scored a win but the economists are saying the spending cuts could do more harm than good. Had we had a productive bi-partisan bill the benefits could have been much larger...

I think we may see the GOP distance themselves from the Tea Party in the run up to the 2012 election.

-spence

And if the Tea Party & the house didn't stand firm and stir the pot, where would we have been? Being that the big difference was spending other people's money raising taxes, was that the solution?

If the house / TP didn't hold firm would this even have been brought up? Or would have been a rubber stamp for another 2 years?

We're BROKE. Moodys kept our AAA rating but our chief banker, China, downgraded us.

We are well into a constantly reducing set of options - halfway down a funnel where the deeper we go, the deeper we are and the best the left can do is call people effing terrorists? Complain that the teas party is blocking their ability to spend?

[striperman36]

Well the markets reacted very favorably!!

I think well are going to see a more severe recession this time around without government intervention.
Probably close to Japan's lost decades

If you have a job now, learn to enjoy it. If you don't have employment now, good luck.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

It was pretty impressive to see the Tea Party threaten the House leader with the spectre of default. Hell, they pretty much terrorized...oh great, now you just made me do it as well...



-spence

Your hero Joe Biden is not funny.

I can't even conceive that the VICE PRESIDENT Of The UNITED STATES
could call a group of law biding, tax paying American citizens Terrorists, because
he disagrees with them. What a Jackass. Way to unite the country Joe.

What's next, he's going to call for the disarmament of their calculators???

[Bronko]

The Democrats call red blooded Americans who are fed up with government waste and out of control spending 'terrorists', but they completely refuse to call radical islamists hell bent on destroying the western way of life 'terrorists.' Interesting approach.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Bronko

The Democrats call red blooded Americans who are fed up with government waste and out of control spending 'terrorists', but they completely refuse to call radical islamists hell bent on destroying the western way of life 'terrorists.' Interesting approach.

It would seem as though your characterization of Democratic behavior is lacking a bit of substance.

-spence

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Your hero Joe Biden is not funny.

I can't even conceive that the VICE PRESIDENT Of The UNITED STATES
could call a group of law biding, tax paying American citizens Terrorists, because
he disagrees with them. What a Jackass. Way to unite the country Joe.

What's next, he's going to call for the disarmament of their calculators???

Did he even say it? Biden says he didn't...story seems to be second hand...

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Did he even say it? Biden says he didn't...story seems to be second hand...

-spence

what are the odds he said it?

"What makes Biden’s denial so implausible is that liberals and Democrats have been flinging the “terrorist’’ slur across the aisle for weeks."

Smearing the Tea Party - The Boston Globe

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

what are the odds he said it?

So now it's down to proving a negative?

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

So now it's down to proving a negative?

-spence

"odds" given his habit of talking too much and saying stupid things...I'd put the odds pretty high...given his history

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

Did he even say it? Biden says he didn't...story seems to be second hand...

-spence

Fact is he had no comment when it frist came out.

If he was guiltless, you would think as VP of the United States he would be outraged
at the fact he was even accused of such a dastardly remark smearing
the ciitzens he was elected to serve.

What are we becoming.

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Fact is he had no comment when it frist came out.

If he was guiltless, you would think as VP of the United States he would be outraged
at the fact he was even accused of such a dastardly remark smearing
the ciitzens he was elected to serve.

What are we becoming.

Did he? I heard the denial pretty fast. Given he has a rep for foot in mouth I'd think an outraged position might be seen as even more fishy.

But the story true or not did lead to this retort by Sarah Palin.

"If we were real domestic terrorists, President Obama would be wanting to pal around with us, wouldn't he?"

Priceless. And this is from the woman pulling many of those Tea Party strings...

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Did he? I heard the denial pretty fast. Given he has a rep for foot in mouth I'd think an outraged position might be seen as even more fishy.

But the story true or not did lead to this retort by Sarah Palin.





Priceless. And this is from the woman pulling many of those Tea Party strings...

-spence

I'm pretty sure that she's referring to Obama's close friend and actual domestic "terrorist" Bill Ayers...I've never found that association very funny....and Obama never seemed to mind "negotiating" with THAT terrorist...great irony actually

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

Did he? I heard the denial pretty fast. Given he has a rep for foot in mouth I'd think an outraged position might be seen as even more fishy.

But the story true or not did lead to this retort by Sarah Palin.





Priceless. And this is from the woman pulling many of those Tea Party strings...

-spence

Depends on what pretty fast means.
Point being the White House would neither confirm or deny when it was reported. Source, Smearing the Tea Party-Boston Globe.
Guess the WH couldn't have gotten to him pretty fast. His cell phone musta been outa order.
Nice try to deflect to Palin, a citizen not elected to hold office and serve the citizens.

With Norway fresh in mind and 9/11, comparing American Citizens, who
want to cut taxes and cap spending, being compared to terrorists shows the
left will stop at nothing to smear others who differ with their ideals.
They reached a new low. Sad.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

JohnR, the $14 trillion in "operating debt", which as you said works out to $47,000 per person, IS THE GOOD NEWS.

.....

We have a spending problem, not a revenue problem.

Good to be back! I have a 10 week old boy who is very collicky...

Thanks for increasing my migraine.

Congrats on the new baby .

I've been colicky the past 10 weeks too

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

What's pathetic is how little they really gained. The can has been kicked down the road and the tax fight is not settled. The politicians think they have scored a win but the economists are saying the spending cuts could do more harm than good.

-spence

Spence, I agree that little was accomplished, but you, the economists and the dems are not getting that we NEED to do more harm than good. That right - harm. So is the road to a 500lb person losing weight harmful? Of course, its brutal diets and exercise. There is no easy way. Our economy and structure are in the same boat. We need to scale back, take the consequences and move forward. More spending is not the solution just like more food is not the solution to lose weight.

[justplugit]

Good analogy, RIJ.

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Spence, I agree that little was accomplished, but you, the economists and the dems are not getting that we NEED to do more harm than good. That right - harm. So is the road to a 500lb person losing weight harmful? Of course, its brutal diets and exercise. There is no easy way. Our economy and structure are in the same boat. We need to scale back, take the consequences and move forward. More spending is not the solution just like more food is not the solution to lose weight.

When have I ever advocated we should not be cutting spending?

-spence