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View Poll Results: Have you been a #^&#^&#^&#^& because of fishing?
Absolutely! That's why I love the canal. 9 16.67%
Ahh....yup......but probably not as bad as you. 18 33.33%
Nah....at least not lately. 20 37.04%
Not me...unless wives count. 7 12.96%
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Old 07-27-2011, 03:48 PM   #1
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Some things you just dont do.
Like scope a guys regular spot then jump it at every opportunity and fall back on "I got here first" BS. Then drag all your buddys there cause you dont care, its not your regular spot. And not expect it to come to a head after years of pulling that. And then to cry about it here!? Aw, poor guy
Everyone so quick to look down their nose, but you reap what you sow.
Your insinuating Rick scoped the spot?? Real strong words, being where it is located . And IMO if he was there first that night, he had every right to be there and stay there. Not sure why the rest happened but it did. Maybe there's something the rest of us don't know but your making it sound like Rick was following him specifically to steal "his" spot. I would think we all have more to do in life than stalk someone for a spot.
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Old 07-27-2011, 04:08 PM   #2
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I could echo the nice things Gilly and Monty ( and doubtless countless others) say of Rick, and and a lengthy list of my own.

But really, it takes away from the point. This isn't a contest to line up people to say nice things about one of the people involved in order to build credibility for either one of them. Im sure the "supa-visor" of the spot in question could have people line up to say wonderful things about him as well....

The point is - if ANY of the long list of actions taken by the offending person in this encounter is true.... they are well beyond the bounds of reasonable behavior, especially towards a brother surfcaster....

I defy any reasonable person to justify any of those things to me as "ok to do" for ANY reason.....

I'll give anyone a "bad day" or poor singular outburst.... but this?

Pull that stuff in a public place where a cop is standing- and youll be calling the number on Prevost's business card.....

Numby's right - this is learned behavior. you do stuff like that because it get results. The problem is - eventually you will run into someone who isnt smart enough to be the bigger person and see whats to lose vs. 5 seconds of feeling good after throwing a punch. Apparently this person has avoided that experience til now.

Like Derek says... there's ALWAYS someone bigger and badder than you out there, you just dont know when you are going to meet them.

The other problem is that by doing the correct thing ( a la Foley and Hern) and not letting it devolve into a physical confrontation.... you are conceding a principle that all have equal access to a spot- first come first served...

and I think thats the part that rubs reasonable people the wrong way - caught between " wanting to stand up for the correct principle" - and the reality of " i'm too old and have too much to lose to be getting in a fistfight over this like a 7 year old".....

I will always stick up for the principle - but not at the expense of putting my life, livelihood, loved ones, liberty and property at risk.....

Let's try to keep it in perspective - it's fishing..... and respect is a two way street.......realize when you have been shown some, even if you don't necessarily see it "your" way all the time....

I've learned in 20 years of Fire, EMS and Emergency Medicine: you cant fix crazy, or stupid... you can only manage it situationally as best you can, and move on.
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Old 07-27-2011, 04:16 PM   #3
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Look why don't all of you let this rest. It's between Rick and the other party. Let them hash it out.
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Old 07-27-2011, 05:12 PM   #4
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How this has been handled is probably indicitive of the entire event.
The whining on the internet over a little ruckus, the Im innocent I was just eneded up there, hey pals, I helped you now back me up online, the first opposing post come running back to post strong words, the Im gonna shut it down for everyone, true colors are showing
Wrongs were made, but jumping a better fishermans spot isnt right either

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Old 07-27-2011, 05:46 PM   #5
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Some things you just dont do.
Like scope a guys regular spot then jump it at every opportunity and fall back on "I got here first" BS. Then drag all your buddys there cause you dont care, its not your regular spot. And not expect it to come to a head after years of pulling that. And then to cry about it here!? Aw, poor guy
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How this has been handled is probably indicitive of the entire event.
The whining on the internet over a little ruckus, the Im innocent I was just eneded up there, hey pals, I helped you now back me up online, the first opposing post come running back to post strong words, the Im gonna shut it down for everyone, true colors are showing
Wrongs were made, but jumping a better fishermans spot isnt right either
Where does your post come from?
I was not there that night nor do I I know the other party. I met Rick last year and in that time have never seen him act anything but upstanding. I have seen him treat everyone I have seen him come in contact with nothing but respect.
I just can not see what you are saying as being true. I have seen him move out of a spot that is too crowded even though everyone was catching. I have also seen him share or outright give up his spot to someone that has either not been catching or had less time to fish.

I guess one thing you say is true. You do reap what you sow. That is why he can call many on and off the site his friends, that will vouch for his character.
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Old 07-27-2011, 05:55 PM   #6
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It is a mistake to re-hash an incident like this. Too destructive. It will work itself out with time. Leave it at that.

Better to use it to examine your own reasons for fishing and how they make you act out there.

I know that when I need a big fish fix real bad to make up for stress or inadequacy in my life I can end up too intense and angry. Both can lead to selfish behavior with both strangers and friends. Always I end up regretting it. Awareness of this tendency has done more to improve my fishing than anything else I've learned or bought.

Bad fishing more often comes from inside than out.
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:51 PM   #7
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Wow George I feel like I just watched an episode of Kung Fu.
Getting away from the incident and into spot protocol I think we are all pretty much the same.When we fish the canal we note where others fish and catch,all of us.If that spot is vacant we may give it some casts.Most anglers found their spots through intel or observation plain and simple.If somebody takes you to a spot and says never come here,those words must be respected.In the boat during comm season for anything,if I see some folks fishing away from the crowd I will certainly swing by and say hi(while pressing MOB). Nobody is stupid,otherwise you go fishless.This goes for any species you target.Many who claim spots for their own found them just this way.We learn to share or move on because we are reasonable adults.My first reaction to this incident was it seems odd to get offensive when you know Rick fishes their regularly and has for years.When you couple that with the fact you sniffed out the Fireman and tried to jump HIS spot it leaves you no leg to stand on (except Krispies).If Rick is a bad guy because he learned a spot that a good fisherman sometimes likes to fish then I guess I don't get the issue. If people start calling a rock theirs,and an island theirs,we are not going to have much left to fish ourselves.

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Old 07-28-2011, 05:35 AM   #8
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Look why don't all of you let this rest. It's between Rick and the other party. Let them hash it out.
Exactly......finally the voice of reason.

"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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