JohnnyD

[fishbones]

WTF? If they have enough dough to buy drugs, why should the public pay for their groceries, clothes and medical bills?

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by fishbones

WTF? If they have enough dough to buy drugs, why should the public pay for their groceries, clothes and medical bills?

we have a small food pantry in Mansfield. My kids and I have volunteered there to help out a few times. i drive by on the weekends when they are open and see the people waiting to get the donations. They're smoking butts, drinking DD coffee. I always get po'd. If they can afford to smoke and buy coffee they dont need handouts. Im sure some families really benefit from the food, but I think a lot just take advantage.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by fishbones

WTF? If they have enough dough to buy drugs, why should the public pay for their groceries, clothes and medical bills?

maybe they grow their own pot.

then they have the skill to be assigned to tend the public parks.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by fishbones

WTF? If they have enough dough to buy drugs, why should the public pay for their groceries, clothes and medical bills?

Originally Posted by PaulS

maybe they grow their own pot.

then they have the skill to be assigned to tend the public parks.

I was just talking to the misses about this. She worked at Brattleboro Retreat in VT during one of her medical rotations. It's one of those live-in mental health properties.

She did an entrance medical exam on every new patient. She'd ask every single unemployed addict "medically disabled" person that was hooked on heroin, pills or alcohol how they could afford to get their drugs. The typical response???

"Oh, I use my government stipend for them."

People are complaining that this is an invasion of privacy. My opinion? If you don't want to pee in a cup, get an effing job or go hungry. Most people that actually have government jobs have to submit to drug tests - and they're actually employed. Why the hell shouldn't people that want something for free be forced to piss in a cup too?

In the end, if you don't want to take the test, then get off the government dole. Why the hell are we helping these people continue to be lazy pieces of crap that will never contribute to society?

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Why the hell are we helping these people continue to be lazy pieces of crap that will never contribute to society?

I don't think they are all pieces of crap, many are mentaly ill or fell on hard times.
The government thinks throwing money at problems is the answer and it's not.
No doubt the feeling of entitlement has been passed on from generation to generation because the politicians want the votes.

Point in fact, the average student cost in NJ for suburban schools is $15-18,000 per pupil while the average inner city is $28,000 per student. So how come the drop out rate is double in the inner city compared to the suburbs?

If a person is capable and really wants to work and learn they can always enlist in the armed forces.
Now that's a good program.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

In the end, if you don't want to take the test, then get off the government dole.

Bingo, and there should be a rule that any legislation designed to help
the inner cities should only be developed by members of Congress who
either lived, worked, taught or mentored in the inner city.
They would be the only ones who know the realities.

Notice I said lived, as I guarantee, you couldn't find one who lives there now.

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I was just talking to the misses about this. She worked at Brattleboro Retreat in VT during one of her medical rotations. It's one of those live-in mental health properties.

It's nice that your girl is preparing to get married to you.

This whole thing is really simple. It's not like anyone who tests positive for drugs can't get any govt. money. If you fail the test, you can get treatment and still be eligible for assistance. I see no problem with that. If you decide that drugs are more important to you, go eff yourself.