Obama is a scumbag

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Obama personally demonized Paul Ryan, and that's a fact.

Where in the speech did he demonize him directly? I read the text of the speech here:
Text of Obama Speech on the Deficit - Washington Wire - WSJ

I didn't see Paul Ryan's name. Did he criticize his plan, absolutely! Did he call him some derogatory name? not that I see....

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I'm reasonable, and willing to listen.

Overstatement of the year, easily.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Bit Obama said that Ryan wants to "pit kids with Down's Syndrome against the billionaires of our society".

I assume you are talking about these paragraphs
It’s a vision that says America can’t afford to keep the promise we’ve made to care for our seniors. It says that ten years from now, if you’re a 65 year old who’s eligible for Medicare, you should have to pay nearly $6,400 more than you would today. It says instead of guaranteed health care, you will get a voucher. And if that voucher isn’t worth enough to buy insurance, tough luck – you’re on your own. Put simply, it ends Medicare as we know it.

This is a vision that says up to 50 million Americans have to lose their health insurance in order for us to reduce the deficit. And who are those 50 million Americans? Many are someone’s grandparents who wouldn’t be able afford nursing home care without Medicaid. Many are poor children. Some are middle-class families who have children with autism or Down’s syndrome. Some are kids with disabilities so severe that they require 24-hour care. These are the Americans we’d be telling to fend for themselves.


Where is the billionaire vs down syndrome quote??? I must have missed it. Or you are putting your own interpretation of Obama's speech into quotes to make it look like he said it.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Second, Dad, you're saying that the personal attacks against Bush were widely denounced because of a call for civility? Please enlighten me, Dad...when liberals were comparing Bush to Hitler, calling him a war criminal, from where did the calls for "respect" come from? Who are the people you are referring to? In my opinion, it's liberal apologists like you who (1) mercilessly attacked Bush, and who (2) don't want anyone attacking Obama, that want it both ways.?

I think Kevin is saying it is ironic that those on the right, who jumped all over anyone who criticized bush or called him names got slammed for being unpatriotic. I don't read it as no liberal every said a bad word about Bush....

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

why does Obama demonize Ryan personally, instead of responding to the merits (or lack thereof) of Ryan's proposal?

I see DIRECT lines about the increased costs people would face under the proposed plans in the next decade.... again, where did he say #^&#^&#^&#^& you paul ryan?

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Maybe Ryan should support infanticide. After all, Obama did, and lots of people voted for him. I guess infanticide doesn't violate any of the liberal agenda...

If I had the time I wish I could search all the threads you post in and see if you ever don't take the abortion U-turn....

Welcome back to my ignore list.

[Jim in CT]

RIROCKHOUND -

"Where in the speech did he demonize him directly?"

Gee, you're right, Obama never said "Paul Ryan is a demon".

Obama did say this, however...

"Some are middle-class families who have children with autism or Down's syndrome. Some of these kids with disabilities are — the disabilities are so severe that they require 24-hour care. These are the Americans we'd be telling to fend for themselves."

Please show me where in Paul Ryan's plan it says that disabled kids will have to fend for themselves. Either show us where it says that, or be enough of a man to admit that Obama lied.

"Overstatement of the year, easily."

You want to take the gloves off, fine. I don't believe one patry is right all the time. My opinions are based on a lifetime of common sense, a rational analysis of historical fact, and compassion for everyone else, my Catholicism, and my time in the Marines. As susch, I'm usually conservative. You, on the other hand, blindly support an agenda that says that Osama Bin Laden has more of a right to live than an unborn child. You go ahead and tell yourself that there is one iota of logic in that.

"Where is the billionaire vs down syndrome quote??? "

I saw it on TV, you're right, it's not in the speech, it must have been from another speech he gave. But we can focus on what he did say, which is that the GOP would have disabled kids fend for themselves. Once again, either show me where Ryan's plan eliminates all funding for kids with Down's or autism, or please admit that Obama is a liar.

"I think Kevin is saying..."

Wait a second. Just above, you ridiculed me for putting my own spin on Obama's words, but now it's OK for you to put your own spin on what Kevin said? What's good for the goose...

"I see DIRECT lines about the increased costs people would face "

Yes, cutting spending means increased costs for some. Where does it say disabled kids are totally cut off?

"If I had the time I wish I could search all the threads you post in and see if you ever don't take the abortion U-turn...."

You're right, I get all worked up about silly, trivial things like the slaughter of 4,000 babies a day. I need to learn to not be bothered by such insignificant events. And of course, you dodged the issue I raised completely. I claim that if Obama literally supports infanticide, he might not want to claim that he cares more about kids than the GOP. Instead of telling me why my assertion is invalid, you deride me for making it. That's OK, because when liberals dodge as completely as you just did, I know that I've won the argument.

"Welcome back to my ignore list."

I would rather be on that list, then on the list of men Scarlett Johansenn has been with.