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04-09-2011, 09:27 AM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Is it just me, or do SS needles have two different profile shapes? I have some needles that have a football-like shape (top curve mirrors the bottom curve) while others have almost a straight/flat back, and the belly is curved. Anyone notice this? Is it done for a reason? I have noticed it over the years, so it is not just one. I have also noticed that one tends to out fish the other, but I wont say which is the top producer for me just yet.
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04-09-2011, 02:58 PM
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Night Stalker
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ............
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
Is it just me, or do SS needles have two different profile shapes? I have some needles that have a football-like shape (top curve mirrors the bottom curve) while others have almost a straight/flat back, and the belly is curved. Anyone notice this? Is it done for a reason? I have noticed it over the years, so it is not just one. I have also noticed that one tends to out fish the other, but I wont say which is the top producer for me just yet.
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I think it's just how they come out of the mold. Some are different than others. I think I remember bassmaster and flaptail talking about heating up the nose of the plug and bending it up. You could probably manipulate the shape yourself if you want to but I bet it's fine either way.
Chef Chris. Remember the old 7/O or 8/0 strainless vmc hooks that were out a few years ago? Those were some of the strongest looking siwash hooks I've ever seen. I had more than a few large Hab's needles come back in missing the tail hook. Just saying that looks are definitely not eveything. I'd recommend testing the strength of the eye before buying in completely on those.
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04-09-2011, 03:39 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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The eye of a SS Siwash hook is very brittle and have no give to them and snap very easy
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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04-09-2011, 03:59 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,413
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go w/ Mustad tinned......
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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04-09-2011, 04:35 PM
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Great White Scup Hunter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In the Corner...
Posts: 2,251
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Originally Posted by tattoobob
The eye of a SS Siwash hook is very brittle and have no give to them and snap very easy
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X2.... with emphasis on very,,,
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04-10-2011, 07:09 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 252
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It is a 9510xxxs mustad
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04-10-2011, 08:43 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Originally Posted by jbuck
It is a 9510xxxs mustad
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Pfft..
what do you know about tail hooks.  
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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04-10-2011, 07:43 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Originally Posted by GattaFish
X2.... with emphasis on very,,,
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X3.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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04-10-2011, 08:04 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sturbridge MA
Posts: 3,127
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Chef Chris. Remember the old 7/O or 8/0 strainless vmc hooks that were out a few years ago? Those were some of the strongest looking siwash hooks I've ever seen. I had more than a few large Hab's needles come back in missing the tail hook. Just saying that looks are definitely not eveything. I'd recommend testing the strength of the eye before buying in completely on those.[/QUOTE]
I was looking for a few of those hooks a couple of years ago. The hooks that came on the Hab's Night n Gales looked awesome. I never got a large on them and didnt have the hooks break. I didnt know that was an issue, good to know. They sure did look like some tough bastards.
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Everything is better on the rocks.
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04-11-2011, 09:26 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: orange ct
Posts: 2,992
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
Is it just me, or do SS needles have two different profile shapes? I have some needles that have a football-like shape (top curve mirrors the bottom curve) while others have almost a straight/flat back, and the belly is curved. Anyone notice this? Is it done for a reason? I have noticed it over the years, so it is not just one. I have also noticed that one tends to out fish the other, but I wont say which is the top producer for me just yet.
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Pete- Billy D had 2 Super Strike needles on the table at Surf Day. They were identical bodies except on one the hooks were out of the top and the other the hooks out of the bottom. Crazy- one the belly shape curved on the bottom and the other on the top- exact same body. I would ask Billy if he asked Don or Steve Musso about it.
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04-11-2011, 02:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,574
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
Is it just me, or do SS needles have two different profile shapes? I have some needles that have a football-like shape (top curve mirrors the bottom curve) while others have almost a straight/flat back, and the belly is curved. Anyone notice this? Is it done for a reason? I have noticed it over the years, so it is not just one. I have also noticed that one tends to out fish the other, but I wont say which is the top producer for me just yet.
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The wire in SS needles doesn't go straight through the middle of the needle body. It is designed and meant to be curved along the plugs back. Sometimes during the process of the plastic cooling the wire tends to want to pull down both ends of the plug giving it a banana shape. Easily rectified by bending the back "slighlty" towards the belly - you'll hear the wire crack as it releases from the plastic. For safety sake remove hooks before bending plug. Of course you could just want to fish that banana shaped plug as it just might be what the bass want. "Hey what are you using?" "Just a SS 1 3/4 ounce yellow banana shaped needle - the bass don't seem to want the straight ones tonight."
DZ
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
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