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04-01-2011, 11:36 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Originally Posted by MakoMike
Well, maybe since almost 80% of the mortality is coming from recreational fishermen Maybe they should make stripers a commercial fish only?  (running for cover)
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It's closer to 90% when you look at the fact that the overwhelming majority of the Massachusetts "commercial" fishery is made up of recreational anglers looking to pick up a few extra bucks to defray their expenses.
If they ever limited the fishery to those who derive at least 50% of their income from the sale of fish, you'd have a 1.1 million pound quota with no closed season.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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04-01-2011, 11:52 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Treble for scup,j hook for bunker.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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04-01-2011, 06:18 PM
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Onboard "Leave Me Alone"
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Central Mass for work and coastal Maine for fun!
Posts: 22
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Originally Posted by Mike P
It's closer to 90% when you look at the fact that the overwhelming majority of the Massachusetts "commercial" fishery is made up of recreational anglers looking to pick up a few extra bucks to defray their expenses.
If they ever limited the fishery to those who derive at least 50% of their income from the sale of fish, you'd have a 1.1 million pound quota with no closed season.
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It would be a sad day if you could not take your kid fishing for stripers because we were reserving them for work rather than pleasure.
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04-02-2011, 08:17 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 1,752
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
It's closer to 90% when you look at the fact that the overwhelming majority of the Massachusetts "commercial" fishery is made up of recreational anglers looking to pick up a few extra bucks to defray their expenses.
If they ever limited the fishery to those who derive at least 50% of their income from the sale of fish, you'd have a 1.1 million pound quota with no closed season.
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Geeez,
I have always hated that arguement about reserving the comm bass to just true comm fisherman, it just doesn't hold water in my mind. I know there are several people who think this way. It is the one comm fishery reserved for the rod and reel style fishing.
Ask yourself this.....
- I hope none of you are growing tomotoes in your back yard and selling them in a basket on the sidewallk putting all the real farmers out of business.
- Shame on you guys who paint your own house....your putting all the comm painters out of work.
- Only true snowplow drivers should be snowplowing if you make 50% of your income from plowing.
- I guess I am a bad man......I repiped my hot water heater myself instead of calling a licensed plummer. Wonder how many guys I put out of work.
- Come to think of it, I going to sand and paint the bottom of my boat again. I know I really should be calling the comm "pros" at the marina down the street to do it. I feel guilty, maybe I'll make it up to them and take them to lunch.
I could go on all day with this.......but I'll stop here...... 
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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04-04-2011, 07:39 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Rockland, MA
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x100 Jon. Guess I'm guilty too... I'm one of those "not a real commercial" fisherman. 50+ years pin hooking paid my way through school, paid the dpmt. on my house; paid (part of) my sons exorbitant tuition, etc, etc.
Little did I know that I should have been pumping gas p.t. all these years to make it easier for those who can't catch. Probably would have been a lot easier for me too...no getting up @ 0 dark 30 to pull the gills nets, could have been internet fishing on the couch instead of beating myself on those rough days, could have spent my 5 weeks vacation traveling with the wife instead of.....................never mind.
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04-04-2011, 11:27 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 5,238
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Most of these don't even apply...
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Originally Posted by beamie
Ask yourself this.....
- I hope none of you are growing tomotoes in your back yard and selling them in a basket on the sidewallk putting all the real farmers out of business.
Does anyone actually do this? And is there a limited number of tomatoes that can be pulled from the ground and sold at market?
- Shame on you guys who paint your own house....your putting all the comm painters out of work.
No different than catching stripers for the table with my recreational permit. You're confusing personal use and commercial use here.
- Only true snowplow drivers should be snowplowing if you make 50% of your income from plowing.
Can anyone in this region earning a median yearly income actually get 50% of that yearly income from plowing?
- I guess I am a bad man......I repiped my hot water heater myself instead of calling a licensed plummer. Wonder how many guys I put out of work.
Again, just like putting fish on your own table with a rec permit. Personal use.
- Come to think of it, I going to sand and paint the bottom of my boat again. I know I really should be calling the comm "pros" at the marina down the street to do it. I feel guilty, maybe I'll make it up to them and take them to lunch.
Most of these blur the distinction of doing work for yourself to save money (just like recs keeping fish for their own table) and creating a side business that exploits a limited resource, potentially at the expense of someone else's career.
I could go on all day with this.......but I'll stop here...... 
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04-05-2011, 01:21 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 1,752
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Most of these don't even apply...
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Johnny, don't want to totally hyjack this thread for it did get off topic a way back but I guess we just have to agree to disagree. They very much apply. You say "personal use" for me sure. But someone who is comm at anything is doing this job for thier "personal" use too. Making money for thier "personal" bank account.
When you say on some of my items does anyone actually do this or can it be done. You answered my question. To flip it around how many true comm fish guys pounds nails in the winter, plow snow etc.
Whatever your profession, thier are always guys doing side jobs to get ahead. Have known a few fireman that build houses on the side. Should they leave this for the true building contractor.
Give me a good reason to reserve any one job for just any one group of you have the skill, license and/or qualification.
Last edited by beamie; 04-05-2011 at 03:48 AM..
Reason: spelling
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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