wow, Im actually suprised

[fishbones]

I'd like to see Bobby Jindal run, but it looks like he's going to seek re-election for governor. He's bright, young and has a great background story. He could possibly get some support from younger voters that the Republicans typically don't get.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Except that Jindal had that horrible deer in the headlights State of the Union response.... And as a scientist, Jindal's handling of aspects of the BP spill were questionable, but I understand he was tyring to do something, he just did the wrong things!

Romney: good fiscal sense, he can backpeddle all he wants from Romney Care, but he can't escape it. I could give a #^&#^&#^&#^& about his religion.

Palin. Bachman. Fail.

Newt: "I worked so hard for my country it caused me to run around on my wife" Way too many Skeletons

Huckabee: Making too much money
Pawlenty Who?
Trump: So it's unpresidential to be called 'Dude' by Jon Stewert on Comedy central, but it's OK to be roasted? Too bad, b/c his current model/wife would be a smoking hot first lady.

One interesting thing I heard was that Christie might just wait till the fall while all of the above duke it out and then step in....

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Except that Jindal had that horrible deer in the headlights State of the Union response.... And as a scientist, Jindal's handling of aspects of the BP spill were questionable, but I understand he was tyring to do something, he just did the wrong things!

I guess you didn't actually listen to what he said. If you did, you'd see that he was pretty much on point with everything. Yes, his delivery was very choppy. I wouldn't judge his qualifications based on him being uncomfortable his first time addressing the entire nation live following the President's big speech. Lot's of pressure there. If looking comfortable and being smooth while giving speeches made you a good President, Obama wouldn't even have to campaign for 2012. He'd be a shoe in.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by fishbones

I guess you didn't actually listen to what he said. If you did, you'd see that he was pretty much on point with everything.

Like, stimulus is bad, unless it is coming to my state...

I don't judge him on that. I think voters will.

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Like, stimulus is bad, unless it is coming to my state...

I don't judge him on that. I think voters will.

You have to remember that when he made that speech, Obama was going to save the country with the stimulus package. In hindsight, Jindal proved to be right about it being a waste. He also said that more government intervention was going to be bad for the country, which has been the case so far.

I'm not saying Jindal is a great Presidential candidate right now, but he looks pretty good when compared to some of the others. His approval rating in his home state is excellent, and the skeletons in his closet are much more easily explained than some of the other Republicans'.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by fishbones

You have to remember that when he made that speech, Obama was going to save the country with the stimulus package. In hindsight, Jindal proved to be right about it being a waste.

But he still put his hand out. Other gov's rejected the money and associated projects (like Christie w/ the tunnel) even if the merit might have been there...

I agree with RIJ, I've yet to see a viable candidate emerge....

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

But he still put his hand out. Other gov's rejected the money and associated projects (like Christie w/ the tunnel) even if the merit might have been there...

I agree with RIJ, I've yet to see a viable candidate emerge....

If I remember correctly, and that's a big if, Jindal rejected provisions for a big chunk of stimulus money. The money he accepted was for schools and jobs, and was used for those things.

Again, I don't think he's the ideal candidate, but I think he'd have a better chance than some of the other choices. And remember, a lot of people didn't think Obama was a viable candidate back in 2008.

As for "taking the evil you know over the evil you don't know", I'd take a chance that anyone else could only be an improvement.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by fishbones

I'd like to see Bobby Jindal run, but it looks like he's going to seek re-election for governor. He's bright, young and has a great background story. He could possibly get some support from younger voters that the Republicans typically don't get.

The socialist who bailed out the failed chicken processors w/ 50 million in taxpayer money?

[justplugit]

Chris Christe, Gov. of NJ, would pick up right where the voters
left off in Nov wanting to cut spending, lower the debt and having a smaller government.
The man says what he means, means what he says and takes no crap
from anybody.
Problem is he is not well enough known, yet.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Chris Christe, Gov. of NJ, would pick up right where the voters left off in Nov wanting to cut spending, lower the debt and having a smaller government. The man says what he means, means what he says and takes no c rap from anybody.
Problem is he is not well enough known, yet.

Yes, he is well known enough.

The problem in a national level, how much would he get done while fighting with the house and senate...

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Chris Christe, Gov. of NJ, would pick up right where the voters
left off in Nov wanting to cut spending, lower the debt and having a smaller government.
The man says what he means, means what he says and takes no crap
from anybody.
Problem is he is not well enough known, yet.

while I agree on the surface, he hasnt been around long enough to show results. he may be cutting costs, but at what expense? from what I've read, crime is running rampant, and hes cutting cops.
Im for fiscal responsibility but we need our basic services covered.
jersey is a long way from washington and the challenges of a global crisis. I believe Christie has said he is not ready

Back to the thread topic - is anyone suprised by O's results? Much lower than I thought.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

while I agree on the surface, he hasnt been around long enough to show results. he may be cutting costs, but at what expense? from what I've read, crime is running rampant, and hes cutting cops.

If your talking the City of Camden your right as the city cut 50% of
the police force, but not so in the rest of the state. Crime in NJ started
rising in 2008 under Corzine.
He's turning budgets back to individual cities where they detremine how to
live within their means. Home rule.

I agree about experience, but he's has an excellent record as 10 years
Freeholder and 6 years as NJ Attorney General. Right now or soon two years as Governor sure beats a community organizer with a year or so as a jr Senator.

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by zimmy

The socialist who bailed out the failed chicken processors w/ 50 million in taxpayer money?

Cpt. Crunch, is that you? Welcome back to the site. I though you had a lifetime ban?